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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by asdff »

arp242 wrote: post #564
snitty wrote: post #239

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I, too, remember when Obama has the FCC commissioner threaten to revoke broadcast licenses for the coverage of his tan suit. This type of both-sides-ism is dumb, especially here when one side is using the power of the federal government to get dissenting voices taken off the air.

I see this "high-ranking elected officials" vs. "A few anonymous nobodies on Reddit and Twitter (now Bluesky I guess)" type of false equivalence all the time.

About a dozen times in this very thread alone, so far in my scrolling.

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Post by themaninthedark »

alpha_squared wrote: post #48

I'm unsure where we as a society go from here. The left's cancel culture resulted in the firing of private citizens from their jobs, or at least some reprimand. The right's cancel culture is the full weight of the federal government brought down against opposition, in stark violation of the First Amendment; that is, until the Supreme Court can find some new carve-out for why this isn't protected speech. Realistically…

I see we are forgetting the period of time from the end of 2019 to 2022...

Government agencies were "recommending" and "cautioning" social media companies on topics such as COVID and laptops. That was not being done to benefit the political rights.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24781367

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24813762

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Post by Anyhao »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #557
burnt-resistor wrote: post #501

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Assassination is stupid and counterproductive, even if the subject was a shameless, ethnonationalist supremacist who said mass shootings were the "price to pay" for 2a, because all that blackpill bozo did was turn him into an "innocent" victim, lionized martyr. Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

More than that, though, this assassination was particularly counterproductive because it basically played to the worst stereotypes about "the left" not willing to listen to anything they disagree with. I may disagree with the vast majority of Charlie Kirk's opinions, but he was at a university, inviting others who strongly disagreed with him to debate him, face-to-face. I may not be a particular fan of this style of…

We had all the info yesterday, kid was a terminally online groyper. If "the left" can do nothing and still be blamed for everything, what exactly is the way forward?

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Post by asdff »

mythrwy wrote: post #431
pupppet wrote: post #260

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Remind us what canceled right wing celebrity figure that is in line with Jimmy Kimmel’s firing. Maybe Scott Baio? No wait, maybe that guy from Hercules?

They bankrupted Alex Jones and Rudy Giuliani, paraded Steve Bannon in handcuffs. Kicked people with even moderate right wing opinions off social media. I fully disagree with cancelling Kimmel due to any governmental pressure (if that's what happened) and I'm absolutely horrified with the firings that are being gloated about at the moment but let's not pretend here. The left was very much out of bounds on the cancelli…

Defamation lawsuit, defamation lawsuit, money laundering, and no one specific. I'm not sure how this is in any way due to the left. Are sandy hook parents agents of the left in the reality you believe in? Is money laundering not a crime?

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Post by amradio1989 »

ABC was certainly complicit in what Jimmy Kimmel was doing. But they are now throwing Jimmy under the bus.

Jimmy was wrong to say what he said. At best it was a bad-faith assertion, at worst it was propaganda. It wasn’t even true, or likely to be true given what we knew.

The fact is that someone is dead. That is the strongest form of censorship. That is the strongest attack on “free speech”.

Jimmy pulled indefinitely? In my opinion it’s unfair. ABC is not innocent here.

But at least Jimmy didn’t have a bullet put into his neck.

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Post by gsf_emergency_2 »

asdff wrote: post #574
kelnos wrote: post #502

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Cancel culture has been a thing a lot longer than since 2013. McCarthyism, anyone? Funny how cancellation has historically been wielded by the right, but once the left gets a few (comparatively minor) cancel-jabs in, it's a Real Problem.

The important distinction is that the left cancels by utilizing consumer choice vs the government.

Government the Father, consumer choice the Mother.

To push a domestic metaphor

(Or are the gender roles switched)

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Post by typpilol »

davesque wrote: post #210
_9za9 wrote: post #188

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MAGA did, in fact, do their best over the weekend to cast the shooter as anything other than one of them. Comments made in poor taste? Maybe? Not really? No poorer taste than the president saying on Fox & Friends that he "couldn't care less" about promoting unity after the Kirk shooting. Next point, from NYTimes article covering this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-... "The abrupt decisio…

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

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Post by themaninthedark »

mrtesthah wrote: post #271
throwmeaway222 wrote: post #144

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It's extremely relevant. The person grew up "conservative" and was radicalized to the left in college. The reason this is important is that it's a trend. If the trend isn't acknowledged on the left, then it will just continue.

I see nothing wrong with people acquiring a left-wing political lens as a result of their own independent thought process (which, by the way, has nothing to do with universities, regardless of what the right-wing talking points you're referencing say; the shooter went to a trade school). And in any case, a significant majority of political violence is caused by right-wing extremists. Of course the DOJ just deleted th…

So earlier I took a look at the wiki list of Domestic Terrorism incidents.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_Un...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45207030

Over the last 40 years: 8/16 attacks on that list are linked to White Supremacists(Counting OKC) ~50%

In the last 15 years, again about 50% are linked to White Supremacists and ~41% linked to Radical Islam.

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Post by jacquesm »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #352

This feels like an overreach, maybe. The FCC does have the strange task of regulating "false information" [1], but in practice I don't think that gets invoked very often (I'm sure morning DJs would be fired en masse if they were actually held to the standard of proven, objective truth!) I'm hoping that this is just the high watermark, and not the new standard. [1] - https://www.fcc.gov/sites/default/files/broadcastin…

> The FCC does have the strange task of regulating "false information"

https://progressive.org/op-eds/weve-always-known-fox-news-is...

I guess Fox is next then. After all, the FCC is definitely not going to be found anything less than even handed.

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