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Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by TrackerFF »

alwillis wrote: post #175

From Anthropic’s Reddit account: One user consumed tens of thousands in model usage on a $200 plan. Though we're developing solutions for these advanced use cases, our new rate limits will ensure a more equitable experience for all users while also preventing policy violations like account sharing and reselling access. This is why we can’t have nice things.

It reminds me of how many landlords (where I live) would offer electricity included in rent, years ago, for the smaller apartments.

Worked great for years, decades even, until crypto miners caught on - and maxed out the usage. Ruined it for the other 99.99% of renters.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Dilettante_ »

matt3210 wrote: post #538
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

>If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week Now your vibes can be at the beach.

"The 4-hour vibe week"

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by forty »

epolanski wrote: post #564
forty wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big if. People might feel faster because there is more "movement", but it's not clear if overall they are actually signicantly faster (though everyone would like us to believe so). And note that I objected online services, local LLM don't have the same issues.

People who use it extensively may know whether it makes them significantly faster or not.

I assume they have an opinion on the topic, but it doesn't mean they are right (or wrong).

Think of driving a car. If the shortest path (in term to time of travel) is through traffic jam, and there is a longer path where you can drive must faster, it's very likely that most people will have the feeling to be more efficient with the longer path.

Also the slow down of using LLM might be more subtle and harder to measure. They might happen at code review time, handling more bugs and incident, harder maintainance, recovering your deleted DB ;)...

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by thephyber »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

(1) I use Claude Code as a solo iOS developer and don’t hit the 5 hour limits much. I suspect the users hitting it more often are throwing way more tokens from much larger code repos and are probably asking for larger incremental changes.

(2) I interpret this change as targeting people who are abusing the single Pro account, but using it more like a multi-developer business would maximizing the number of tokens (multiple sessions running 24/7 always hitting the limits). Anthropic has a business interest in pushing those users to use the API (paying per token) or upgrade to the $200/mo subscription.

(3) While I fear they might regularly continue to push the top x% usage tier users into the higher subscription rate, I also realize this is the first adjustment for token rates of Claude Pro since Claude Code became available on that subscription.

(4) If you don’t want to wait for the next unthrottling, you can always switch to the API usage and pay per token until you are unblocked.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by theshrike79 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #88

I'm probably not going to hit the weekly limit, but it makes me nervous that the limit is weekly as opposed to every 36 hours or something. If I do hit the limit, that's it for the entire week —a long time to be without a tool I've grown accustomed to! I feel like someone is going to reply that I'm too reliant on Claude or something. Maybe that's true, but I'd feel the same about the prospect of loosing ripgrep for a…

From what I gathered from their post, to hit the weekly limit you have to hit the daily limit MULTIPLE times during the week.

I'm pretty sure they calibrated it so that only the people who max out every 5 hour window consistently get hit by the weekly quota.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by epolanski »

forty wrote: post #583
epolanski wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who use it extensively may know whether it makes them significantly faster or not.

I assume they have an opinion on the topic, but it doesn't mean they are right (or wrong). Think of driving a car. If the shortest path (in term to time of travel) is through traffic jam, and there is a longer path where you can drive must faster, it's very likely that most people will have the feeling to be more efficient with the longer path. Also the slow down of using LLM might be more subtle and harder to measur…

Apologies, but from antirez[1] to many other brilliant 1000x developers advocate for LLMs speeding up the process.

I can see the impact on my own input both in quantity and quality (LLMs can come up with ideas I would not come up to, and are very useful for tinkering and quickly testing different solutions).

As any tool it is up to the user to make the best out of it and understand the limits.

At this point it is clear that naysayers:

1) either don't understand our job

2) or haven't given AI tools the proper stress testing in different conditions

3) or are luddites being defensive about the "old" world

[1] https://www.antirez.com/news/154

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by energy123 »

tough wrote: post #29
paxys wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The API exists. You can generate a token and use Claude Code with it directly, no plan needed.

then why sell fake -unlimited- plans to hook people up It lasted less than a week -unlimited- been a shit show cutting down since then

Bait and switch.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by smcl »

jimbo808 wrote: post #22

I'm not sure how this will play out long term, but I really am not a fan of having to feel like I'm using a limited resource whenever I use an LLM. People like unlimited plans, we are used to them for internet, text messaging, etc. The current pricing models just feel bad.

The problem is that this company is haemhorraging money and cannot possibly offer an unlimited plan.

Re: Claude Code weekly rate limits

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Post by Zacharias030 »

brookst wrote: post #462
landl0rd wrote: post #357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can tell how it’s intentional with both OpenAI and Anthropic by how they’re intentionally made opaque. I cant see a nice little bar with how much I’ve used versus have left on the given rate limits so it’s pressuring users to hoard. Because it prevents them from budgeting it out and saying “okay I’ve used 1/3 of my quota and it’s Wednesday, I can use more faster.”

I think the simple product prioritization explanation makes way more sense than a a second-order conspiracy to trick people into hoarding. Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.

I hear OpenAI and Anthropic are making tools that are supposedly pretty good at helping with creating a view from a backlog.

Back to the conspiracy ^^

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