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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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When asking people if they'd buy a yellow Sony Walkman people said yes. Shortly after given the choice to take one home the same people picked black. https://medium.com/@diogomarta/the-yellow-walkman-paradox-th...

A bunny walks into a bakery. There he asks the baker if he has any carrot cake. The bakers says: ‘No, I don’t sell carrot cake.’ So the bunny leaves, but returns the next day. He once again asks if the baker has any carrot cake. Once more the baker answers: ‘No, I don’t sell carrot cake.’ Once the bunny left, the baker started making a carrot cake thinking the bunny would return the next day for the cake. And so the…

Hilarious and true.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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People report struggling to buy a Ford Maverick. Shadowy organizations can't stand it that Americans demand Kei Trucks and get legislation so they can't get them. Increasingly I see rural people driving compact cars... Maybe they'd like a big-ass truck but they can't afford one at $90k.

The Ford Maverick starts at like $2k more than the Slate truck.

... and that's very little compared to most alternatives on the market.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The Pro (non-Max) feels like my sweet spot. Fits in most pockets pretty easily but Max is just too big for me.

I am 6ft tall and feel like my hands are above average in size. I have a regular iPhone 16 pro. I still don’t understand how people use bigger devices. Do they like using two hands? I can’t single hand a phone any larger without having to shift it in my hand. I don’t want to use two hands on my phone outside of typing.

People type a lot though. It's also better for video, games, reading, general browsing. If you value one handed operation above all that though, then obviously smaller is better.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

how does Fairphone exist?

The main features of the Fairphone are ethical and sustainable production, repairability and longevity.

Of all the people who prioritize those features when buying a new phone, only ~100k users end up buying a fairphone every YEAR.

A company like Samsung needs to produce roughly 10x this volume BEFORE launch just to fill their sellout channels, so their financial risk for a global ramp-up is much higher.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Unihertz devices fill a gap but are subpar phones in terms of hardware. They also don't get any software updates the minute after they are launched.

I would be all over the Unihertz stuff if that wasn’t the case. I see people talking about Lineage working, but I haven’t looked into it. My ideal phone is something small and rugged with physical keys that supports Android Auto for navigation and a few other basic apps I need (Bitwarden basically).

Your phone basically exists from Unihertz. You just refuse to buy it. Which, well…

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I want a Linux phone based on open source hardware. I gave up an iPhone for Android then switched to Pixels. My current Pixel 7 will be my last Google phone. I want out of the surveillance economy. I want AI assistance as badly I want a hole in the head.

I carry an 8 inch tablet (fits in a jacket pocket) and do most of my mobile web, email, podcast listening etc. on that, using my phone as a hotspot. Can't buy a new 8 inch tablet with a fingerprint reader. Got a couple of 2nd hand ones on eBay and will soon look at putting LineageOS on them (they have out of date versions of Android).

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> when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. My theory is that much of this effect is an error, or at least a far-less-than-ideal effort, on the part of the designers. Of course it’s hard to sell a low-end “mini” device with a worse camera, worse battery life, etc. But that’s not actually what I, or many people I discuss this with, want. I wo…

> The iPhone 12 and 13 Mini were always marketed as the cheaper versions [...] No, they were not. They were literally a scaled down version of their respective regular sized counterparts, the 13 Mini had the same cameras, SOC, memory, screen quality and storage options as the regular 13 [0], yet its sales success (or lack thereof [1]) was enough to instantly cure me of any previously held notions that there is a suff…

The 12 mini and 13 mini had very substandard batteries compared to the mainline version or the SE.

There are a lot of people who probably would've bought the mini but instead of opted for the SE because battery life degraded so quickly.

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What was so odd was how Apple fumbled the iPhone mini launch by launching the iPhone SE first. At that point there hadn't been a small phone for a few years, There was pent up demand. The SE came out and it was a big success, lots of people wanted ti because it was a small phone. Then few months later they launched the mini expecting it to sell even more or something. Somehow they missed that everyone that wanted a s…

I'm still using a 13 mini, it's fractionally too large, I think the original SE is perfection. Regardless, battery life is horrendous now, and it's starting to lag and fail so when the new ultra watch is released I'm going to replace my phone with it.

I still use my first gen SE and have had the battery replaced once.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. Internet people get excited. And when launched - no one buys it. They learn their lesson and move on.

Apple never released a flagship iPhone Mini, i.e. an iPhone Mini Pro. If you wanted good cameras (like the more useful 2x or 3x lens, rather than the mostly-useless 0.5x lens that they added to the base models), you had to get the large or larger phone.

I would've bought the 13 Mini Pro if it had existed, but camera quality wasn't something I was willing to compromise on.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I would be all over the Unihertz stuff if that wasn’t the case. I see people talking about Lineage working, but I haven’t looked into it. My ideal phone is something small and rugged with physical keys that supports Android Auto for navigation and a few other basic apps I need (Bitwarden basically).

Your phone basically exists from Unihertz. You just refuse to buy it. Which, well…

I’m not completely against it yet, especially if it looks like I can use something like Lineage.

Software aside, I’ve heard mixed things about the keyboard on the Titan. Keeping an open mind though, I would like to support companies filling this niche.

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