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Sounds like programming :P
Only if you're good at it.
Even if you're bad at it, you still get what you asked for.
It just may be more distant from what you wanted the worse you are.
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I feel like some of the angels would probably be able to calculate very large primes easily. I’m not an angeloligist, but maybe the ones that are wheels all covered in eyes.
Feels like profiling to say someone with the name Metatron would be good at math.
If the CPU is the throne, the GPU is right next to the throne.
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My experience in Australia and India is that increasingly commonly people, especially but not exclusively laity, don't really believe the Nicene Trinity, but more ignore the Father and make Jesus God. That’s a particularly common view among Hindus, too (I remember a school textbook saying the Christian god was named Jesus), which is almost weird given that their notion of “avatars” isn’t too bad a fit for the trinity…
this is the first time I've heard of Christadelphianism. I looked it up, expecting it to have cult-like beliefs, but it really seems pretty unobjectionable to me. I would feel more at ease around you and your Brethren than with Presbyterians, since while you don't subscribe to universal salvation, nor do you seem to believe in Predestination or a Hell of eternal torment.
If you happen to be interested in more details or discussion, email me.
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Not to be that guy, but I always wondered how "reign a 1000 years" square with the Jesus as he was in fact depicted in the bible. Didn't exactly strike me as the guy who would be interested in reigning, more like a guy who the people who acrually like to reign would get rid off because he's an uppity socialist that gives common folks ideas that make them demand more of their lives.
It’s most easily shown in a couple of Paul’s letters and in Hebrews, but I think you might prefer what the gospels record Jesus saying; so I’ll suggest Matthew 25, especially towards the end, and some chunks in Luke 12 too, probably centring around verse 49. His first and second comings have quite different missions. You can also see the progression even in his lifetime in how he tried to help and teach the leaders at the start, but by the end he practically eviscerated the Pharisees for their unrepentant hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
There’s also the temptations of Jesus: skipping the pain and taking over (to fix things, as he will eventually) was a temptation to him. He had the power, he had to decide not to use it on himself. Consider also Gethsemane.
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I don't know anything about hinduism, but I assume there is a base morality that the strong may not take advantage of the weak, in contrast with the athenian dictum I quoted.
And Hinduism is a so-called pagan religion. Thus, there was no need to pretend that only Abrahamic faiths have a sense of morality.
Did I say anything about abrahamic religions?
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I don't know anything about hinduism, but I assume there is a base morality that the strong may not take advantage of the weak, in contrast with the athenian dictum I quoted.
And Hinduism is a so-called pagan religion. Thus, there was no need to pretend that only Abrahamic faiths have a sense of morality.
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stripping away the rope leaves a thread, and stripping away a man's riches leaves him poor. give it away, in other words.
Yes.
This meaning seems somewhat contrary to readings in the OT (Ecclesiastes 4:12), about how a person alone is defeated, but two can fight back-to-back, and how three are a braided cord. I think given how other verses speak about not serving God and Mammon (money), that the rich are asked to give their riches to follow Jesus is a direct appeal to that given rich man, so that he could braid his cord with theirs, and have the man and his money work toward spreading the Good News. These braiding metaphors are similar to comparisons of Gentiles being grafted as a new vine onto the covenant with Abraham.
The parable of the talents and the connection between investment skill and being blessed by the master show that being rich or good with money is considered a good thing that can be used poorly or toward evil, not simply evil in itself. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil, not that money is evil in and of itself. Money is simply a tool fit for a purpose, as Jesus shows with the miracle of the fish with a coin in its mouth which was used to pay their temple taxes, so that Jesus could keep the legalistic Pharisee and Sadducee busybodies off their backs for a little while longer.
"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." Or something like that.
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Is your source on this that 90s era website I’ve seen passed around for 20 years? You truly think that thousands of theologians over hundreds of years never noticed this one simple coincidence?
Sorry, I don't know which web site you are referring to. However this is a primarily a matter of linguistics. Checking in to it, it wasn't Aramaic that was the issue, but Greek: κάμηλον (kamēlon, “camel”) versus κάμιλον (kamilon, “rope”). If by theology, you mean the possible interpretation of "strip away almost everything", while it is debatable whether this particular parable actually means that, it is always accep…
Much nicer interpretation than the simple impossibility.
Plus takes into account that in text criticism the more difficult spelling is usually the more correct, then rendered into the more common through lapsus calami/scribe error.
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Angelic intellects exist in the aevum. They are incorporal. They have no need to engage in discursive reasoning like we do, no need to calculate.
That's the pre-Renaissance, theological idea of angels. I would presume the OP probably knows that given their esoteric reference to Ophanim (TIL! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophanim ), but also understands that the vast majority of people, including Christians, have a metaphysical conception of angels primarily informed by comic books and films.
> conception of angels primarily informed by comic books and films.
Dogma was a great/funny film.
Looking at the Ophanim link and related pictures reminded me of Contact(1997), not great+boring imo, but your comment reminded me of the wheel thing in the movie, and now I wonder if it was something intended (being a heavenly chariot and all) I could have easily missed it — or if that is just a coincidence