I'm curious how devout Catholics will perceive it when the leader of their Church dies on their holiest day, which commemorates the resurrection of Christ. Will they going to see it as a symbol, a sign, or perhaps some kind of deeper message?
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Who should surrender, though? At this point in time, if Hamas were to surrender, the Israeli occupation of Gaza would just get worse. That wouldn't be peace, or justice, for people of Gaza. I certainly don't support what Hamas has done, but Israeli rule will probably be pretty brutal for Palestinians.
Israel hasn't occupied Gaza for 20 years.
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You’re under the impression that’s relevant? How so? Asking out of genuine curiosity.
My understanding is that the mass is intended to be a recreation or commemoration of that event. So why is speaking it in Latin important?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_particular_churches_a...
Oversimplifying greatly, but in and from Western Europe we have the Latin Rite, and in/from the East we have the Byzantine (Greek) Rite. There are others, not of less importance, see the link above.
There’s quite a lot of history involved in all this. But in Western Christianity it was Latin that became predominant for public worship and knowledge transmission.
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You can’t turn your other cheek when you’re dead, so I am pretty sure he didn’t mean it as allow yourself to get killed. Besides, Ukraine did turn other cheek after 2014 war, they just run out of cheeks to turn. Back to main subject, I believe nothing weakened Pope Francis’s policies as much as his widely misunderstood position on this subject.
> he didn’t mean it as allow yourself to get killed. You know, what happened on Easter right?
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You can’t turn your other cheek when you’re dead, so I am pretty sure he didn’t mean it as allow yourself to get killed. Besides, Ukraine did turn other cheek after 2014 war, they just run out of cheeks to turn. Back to main subject, I believe nothing weakened Pope Francis’s policies as much as his widely misunderstood position on this subject.
Jesus pretty famously did allow himself to be killed
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Jesus famously said turn the other cheek
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Link for others: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek
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Pretty disappointing from someone who spent his career modelling language and the cognition behind it.
It is probably exactly because he spent a career considering the cognition behind language that he is not as impressed by LLMs as many others are. I'll readily admit to being expert in neither language and linguistics nor AI, but I am skeptical that anything going on inside an LLM is properly described as "cognition."
to give an example, a quite boring "philosophy question" that's bandied around, usually by children, is "if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?". the answer is that "sound" is a word without a commonly-accepted, logically-derived meaning, for the reasons given above. so if to you the word sound is something human, then the answer is no, but if to you a sound is not something human, then the answer is yes. there's nothing particularly interesting or complex about the thought experiment, it's just a poorly defined word
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> If 99% of people in the street can agree on the meaning of a word without much ambiguity then that's a good starting point This turns out to never be true once you get into actual details. Try to buy blue house paint for a basic example.
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#589The Vatican published an interesting document on AI [1], which attributes a number of quotes to Pope Francis: * As Pope Francis noted, the machine “makes a technical choice among several possibilities based either on well-defined criteria or on statistical inferences. Human beings, however, not only choose, but in their hearts are capable of deciding." * In light of this, the use of AI, as Pope Francis said, must be…
> * As Pope Francis observes, “the very use of the word ‘intelligence’” in connection with AI “can prove misleading” Yes, LLMs are more about knowledge than intelligence. AK rather than AI.
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