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Re: Claude can now search the web

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They need to stop or else make their crawlers easy to identify and block. However I have no faith that AI companies will play by the rules.

They already cost people time, money, and their mental health by using adversarial tactics to evade blocking and ignoring robots.txt

https://drewdevault.com/2025/03/17/2025-03-17-Stop-externali...

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Purely on its technical merits Grok is pretty good and fills a niche in the selection of AI agents. But I can absolutely understand not wanting to use an AI owned by somebody who makes Nazi salutes and is dismantling the US government.

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There is video of him doing a heart to the crowd thing. It's quite different from his nazi salute.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

Google search is crap. It seems to be a sentiment among many HNers, but is it really that bad? I mostly use it for programming, so documentation/forums and it works out greatly. For some queries it even returns personal blogs (which people seem to bash google for not happening). Of course there are some queries that return purely AI blogspam, but reformatting the query with a bit more thought usually solves it. I won…

Personally I like Google search. I think it's not crap - actually quite good. I use it multiple times a day (just checked - about 42 times yesterday). It's different from what it was 10 years ago but still works for most stuff.

That said I also use Perplexity which does things Google never really did.

I've got a theory that people just like to be negative about stuff, especially market leaders, and are a bit in denial as to how it still has the majority search share in spite of many billions spent trying to compete with it and ernest HN posts saying Google is crap use Kagi. For amusement I tried to find their share of search and Google is approx 90%, Kagi approx 0.01% by my calculations.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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> I the human want the data from that request. I am using a tool to get it for me. Isn't this a bit of an oversimplification, though? Especially when the tool you're using completely alters the relationship between the content author and the reader? I hear this argument often: "it's just another tool and we've always used tools". But would you acknowledge that some tools change the dynamics entirely? > Should I not b…

No, whether I curl it, or I use a browser, or an LLM, it is essentially ALL the same, unless of course the LLM crawls it by itself, without human interaction. If the scale bothers you, block it, just like how you would block any other crawlers. Other than that, we all wanted "ease-of-access" (not me though), and now we have it. It does not change anything.

What if the crawlers are faking their identity (As they are doing it right now)

Re: Claude can now search the web

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The longer I've been in the workforce, the more I realize most humans actually kind of suck at their jobs. LLMs being more human like is the opposite of what I want.

This is why agentic AI will likely cause a cataclysim in white-collar labor soon. The reality is, a lot of jobs just need "OK" performers, not excellent ones, and the tipping point will be when the average AI is more useful than the average human.

Maybe I'm missing something, but we seem to be a long way off from the wave of AI replacing a lot of jobs, or at least my job. By title I'm a Software Engineer. But the work that I do here, that we do, well frankly, it's a mess. Maybe AI can crank out code, but that's actually not the hardest part of the job or the most time-consuming part. Maybe AI will accelerate certain aspects but overall, we will all be expected to do more. Spelling and grammar checkers are great. But when you're writing five times the amount you used to write, you barely even notice.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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As a German: He did, and even if there is a chance that he didn't mean it like that the risk of another 1933 is not worth it. I usually don't like cancel-culture but you have to have boundaries and I think the risk of another Holocaust and all the other Nazi cruelties is a boundary a functioning society should be able to agree on.

> As a German: He did

As a Jew: He didn't. (This argument is absurd.)

He was interviewed about it, and he said he didn't.

How does being a German get you to jump to conclusions?

Are you born with a special ability to detect nazi salutes?

Like, did a mirror neuron and a nerve in your torso twitch?

When I saw it, I recognised him beating his heart, throwing it to the crowd, and immediately thought "This is going to get misunderstood." Here we are.

> I usually don't like cancel-culture but you have to have boundaries and I think the risk of another Holocaust and all the other Nazi cruelties is a boundary a functioning society should be able to agree on.

Assuming he's a nazi, but this narrative is fabricated.

You can argue that allowing free speech on X may risk an increase in extremism.

But that's not the same argument as saying "Elon Musk is the next Hitler, he wants to kill the jews, and all cars fabricated in his name should be destroyed for the betterment of humanity." There's simply too many emotions involved in this kind of reasoning.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Google search is crap. It seems to be a sentiment among many HNers, but is it really that bad? I mostly use it for programming, so documentation/forums and it works out greatly. For some queries it even returns personal blogs (which people seem to bash google for not happening). Of course there are some queries that return purely AI blogspam, but reformatting the query with a bit more thought usually solves it. I won…

Is google search bad? Click here to find ten reasons why it is bad and 10 reasons why you should still use it. Yes, it is that bad. Website of Nike? Website of Starbucks? Likely position number one. Every product, category etc., e.g. what rice cooker should I buy? Is diseased by link and affiliate spam. There is a reason why people put +reddit on search terms.

Googling "Is google search bad?" I get at the top

> Reddit · r/google Is Google Search getting worse? Latest research and ...

The whole "Click here to find ten reasons why it is bad" style I've only come across in HN comments attacking what may be a bit of a straw man?

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Fake it til you make it vibes. I understand why he would do it, what I find strange is that it inspires confidence in the market.

You can wait to release something all over the world which will take time because it’s not an engineering issue but a compliance/legal or other types of issue. Or you can iterate faster by doing the minimum and getting feedback and then releasing it in other markets. Not sure what’s wrong with this approach.

Depending on what you’re actually providing, different regions of CSPs might not actually have the features or capacity you need to reliably deliver the feature world wide. That’s probably the exception not the rule, especially for OpenAI.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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> Web search is available now in feature preview for all paid Claude users in the United States. It is for all paid users, something OpenAI is slow on. I pay for both and I often forget to try OpenAI's new things because they roll out so slow. Sometimes it's same-day but they are all over the map in how long it takes to roll out.

For all paid users _in America_. It's not available for me in Europe.

Might you be able to use a VPN to visit the US (safely!) for a short while? Not sure how Anthropic geolocks.
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