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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by sanderjd »

nailer wrote: post #540
MostlyStable wrote: post #509

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"regime" just means government. You are taking common associations and turning them into hard and fast rules when they aren't. "Biden regime" was a completely accurate (and frequently used) description of the last administration (and almost every other preceding administration). As for your second sentence, while it is often dramatically overstated, I think that Trump having authoritarian tendencies is pretty obvious…

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Nothing you pasted here suggests that those attributes are required for the definition of "authoritarian regime", it is just a characterization of "the most notable authoritarian regimes" as it itself says in the text.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by trompetenaccoun »

sophacles wrote: post #530
randomNumber7 wrote: post #511

So it didn't bo(e)ing into the ground yet most people here shit on Elon. I take that guy over those that killed 500 people by trying to save money on a sensor.

It turns out, no matter how hard you squint, no matter how many drugs you take, or how many times you smash yourself in the head with a hammer, the fact remains: Elon is a human person. As such, he has many skills and many faults. This is something true of all humans. It seems that two of Elon's skills are: hire rocket scientists and not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe.…

>not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe

The fact that many believe all these companies thrive despite the leadership is fascinating. I've heard this same take over and over.

One can't keep hiring the right people and make the right decisions without understanding how things work. Bezos is an extremely skilled manager yet his space company, which has actually been around longer than SpaceX as well, amounted to nothing like it. We could write it off to pure luck maybe, if Musk weren't a serial entrepreneur.

There must be some sort of psychological phenomenon explaining this irrational way of viewing his achievements. I feel like that often when people talk about Musk they aren't even talking about him but some sort of fictional character that seems to exist purely in the imagination of certain people. And it's never those who actually worked with him.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by sanderjd »

MiiMe19 wrote: post #504
sanderjd wrote: post #285

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Yeah, "no one wants to outright explain what happened" is called "chilling effects" and is one of the explicit goals of an authoritarian regime like the one we have in the US now. Nobody wants to get fired and get death threats just for speaking plainly, so most people don't. Every once in awhile someone will decide it's worth the cost, but most people most of the time will decide it isn't.

>authoritarian is when the government does thing I don't like

Funny how all the replies to me are pure defensiveness about the word "authoritarian", rather than the point of my post (the chilling effects on speech).

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by trompetenaccoun »

indoordin0saur wrote: post #316
madeofpalk wrote: post #150

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I don't think Elon really had that much to do with this.

Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

As you said they're incompetent so it would be Russia more like. Imagine the bizarre situation that the US would be in while fighting a proxy war against them at the same time.

Also in that alternative timeline, I wonder what that would do to Americans psychologically. If China and Russia had already beat the US in space, the decline would be extremely obvious. To the rest of the world as well.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by GuB-42 »

sepositus wrote: post #415

Incredible story with a great ending. This used to be an apex HN discussion. It's so sad to see it devolve into a partisan flame war.

That's because the main story is one of politics.

Take out politics and the story is nothing special. These guys are astronauts, their mission just took longer than expected because people considered it was safer that way. A movie about it would as boring as a movie about people working in space can be.

But political figures and the media took the story as an opportunity to do what they do best in creating "engagement", i.e. flame wars.

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Post by redeeman »

doug_durham wrote: post #395
theultdev wrote: post #303

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Yeah must be all of his companies have good employees and all his competitors companies have terrible employees. Nothing to do with the CEO or the company culture. Sort of like Apple, Jobs was probably just annoying his engineers all the time and contributed nothing. /s

That is exactly what is going on. Boeing doesn't have Gwenn Shotwell. She's the one making SpaceX operate.

and why dont they?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by trompetenaccoun »

pavlov wrote: post #170
porphyra wrote: post #151

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Let's not forget that right now it seems that only SpaceX is putting in the "monumental efforts" to advance the "pioneeribg industry", being responsible for the vast majority of launches, the only safe crewed spacecraft, as well as pushing the frontier of space travel with ambitious new projects such as Starship.

Does that justify blatant lies?

What "blatant lies" though? The question hasn't really been answered. The user wrote:

>Exploiting and lying about the monumental efforts of a pioneering industry for cheap political points

I don't know what this means. When someone tells a blatant lie, it would be easy to quote them for a start. What 'monumental effort' was lied about? If it's about Boeing then I have to say I too think the company is doing a terrible job and if anyone is lying about the effort it's them, there have been numerous whistleblowers who came out and talked about the coverups at Boeing.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by timschmidt »

amluto wrote: post #407
grandiego wrote: post #390

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Sad world where people expects successful people to hire a PR team just to be liked.

Only if one insists on talking/tweeting all the time. Plenty of business leaders do just fine by mostly keeping their mouths shut.

Ah, so, just like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Quiet_Place

What was the genre of that film again?

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