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Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by ninetyninenine »

namaria wrote: post #580
ninetyninenine wrote: post #389

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Your dismissal of AI as merely a glorified autocomplete tool correctly acknowledges its current limitations—but it reveals an alarming blindness to the aggressively upward trendline of technological progress. Yes, today’s AI primarily simplifies mechanical coding tasks; your assessment of its present role is accurate. However, your argument dangerously ignores the relentless momentum and historical pattern of breakth…

The funny thing about the current AI hype and people echoing it is, if these technologies were as remarkable and promising as you say than they a) don't need the hype; b) you'd realize that hyping them would harm your own self interest because the rational thing to do would be to leverage them quietly while you have an edge on non-believers. Thus the rabid propaganda is great evidence that these technologies are not…

makes sense. So everything that was ever hyped failed by your logic. A good example is cars and planes. They were once hyped now they failed. No one flies planes or drives cars. Simple logic.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by namaria »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #581
namaria wrote: post #580

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing about the current AI hype and people echoing it is, if these technologies were as remarkable and promising as you say than they a) don't need the hype; b) you'd realize that hyping them would harm your own self interest because the rational thing to do would be to leverage them quietly while you have an edge on non-believers. Thus the rabid propaganda is great evidence that these technologies are not…

makes sense. So everything that was ever hyped failed by your logic. A good example is cars and planes. They were once hyped now they failed. No one flies planes or drives cars. Simple logic.

What are you talking about? When were cars and planes hyped?

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by ninetyninenine »

namaria wrote: post #582
ninetyninenine wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

makes sense. So everything that was ever hyped failed by your logic. A good example is cars and planes. They were once hyped now they failed. No one flies planes or drives cars. Simple logic.

What are you talking about? When were cars and planes hyped?

Oh, you’re right—cars and planes just quietly appeared one day, and people started using them with no excitement whatsoever. No headlines, no grand expositions, no public demonstrations. The Wright brothers must have been so relieved that no one hyped their invention, and Ford was probably grateful that the Model T just organically became a cultural and economic force with zero marketing or public enthusiasm.

Good catch. History is full of revolutionary technologies that succeeded only because everyone kept them a total secret.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by namaria »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #583
namaria wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? When were cars and planes hyped?

Oh, you’re right—cars and planes just quietly appeared one day, and people started using them with no excitement whatsoever. No headlines, no grand expositions, no public demonstrations. The Wright brothers must have been so relieved that no one hyped their invention, and Ford was probably grateful that the Model T just organically became a cultural and economic force with zero marketing or public enthusiasm. Good ca…

Despite your snarky irony, it is clear to me that there is a difference between media attention and hype. Your comparison is ludicrous.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by ninetyninenine »

namaria wrote: post #584
ninetyninenine wrote: post #583

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, you’re right—cars and planes just quietly appeared one day, and people started using them with no excitement whatsoever. No headlines, no grand expositions, no public demonstrations. The Wright brothers must have been so relieved that no one hyped their invention, and Ford was probably grateful that the Model T just organically became a cultural and economic force with zero marketing or public enthusiasm. Good ca…

Despite your snarky irony, it is clear to me that there is a difference between media attention and hype. Your comparison is ludicrous.

Oh, of course—no one in the past was hyped or excited about airplanes or cars. The Wright brothers took their first flight in complete obscurity, and Henry Ford quietly introduced the Model T with no fanfare whatsoever. No crowds gathered, no newspapers breathlessly covered these developments, and certainly, no one had strong opinions about how these technologies would reshape the world. Just pure, quiet progress.

And as for hype—what else could possibly spread information besides media? In the past, it was newspapers, expositions, and public demonstrations that built excitement. Today, it’s social media amplifying discussions. But surely, widespread interest in a technology today must mean it’s all just empty propaganda, because, as history shows, real groundbreaking innovations only succeed when no one is paying attention.

That’s why the iPhone was a total flop—Apple really should have just quietly released it in a few stores and hoped people figured it out instead of, you know, making a big deal about it.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by namaria »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #585
namaria wrote: post #584

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite your snarky irony, it is clear to me that there is a difference between media attention and hype. Your comparison is ludicrous.

Oh, of course—no one in the past was hyped or excited about airplanes or cars. The Wright brothers took their first flight in complete obscurity, and Henry Ford quietly introduced the Model T with no fanfare whatsoever. No crowds gathered, no newspapers breathlessly covered these developments, and certainly, no one had strong opinions about how these technologies would reshape the world. Just pure, quiet progress. An…

Ok then go look at the financials and timeframe of Apple investing on the iPhone and the returns and than compare to those of the current wave of investment in "AI".

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by ninetyninenine »

namaria wrote: post #586
ninetyninenine wrote: post #585

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, of course—no one in the past was hyped or excited about airplanes or cars. The Wright brothers took their first flight in complete obscurity, and Henry Ford quietly introduced the Model T with no fanfare whatsoever. No crowds gathered, no newspapers breathlessly covered these developments, and certainly, no one had strong opinions about how these technologies would reshape the world. Just pure, quiet progress. An…

Ok then go look at the financials and timeframe of Apple investing on the iPhone and the returns and than compare to those of the current wave of investment in "AI".

what does financials have to do with hype? You can have a lot of hype and no financials.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by mclau156 »

robotresearcher wrote: post #546
mclau156 wrote: post #505

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I dont see why a Gemini robot couldn't grab 20 dark clothing items from a hamper, put them in the laundry machine, wait an hour, take them out and put them in the dryer while I was at work (thanks return to office)

Maybe it could. But it won’t any time soon because it’d cost far more than you would pay for that service.

there is a security risk for having to pay for a service to wash my clothes, I would prefer no human interaction
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