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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by furyofantares »

bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #436
asdff wrote: post #417

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I think the iphone does a lot more in the background than you might consider initially. Here is an experiment to try. Use your phone as you currently do, but turn on airplane mode when you aren't otherwise using the phone. Leave it on overnight too. You should only lose a few percentage overnight on airplane mode even with an old phone.

> I think the iphone does a lot more in the background than you might consider initially. I understand that. My point being that 25 year old tech, before the real miniatyrization of circuits and power efficiency mind you, has 7x charge time and yet we are impressed by a few additional hours. > Here is an experiment to try. Use your phone as you currently do, but turn on airplane mode when you aren't otherwise using t…

> Putting the phone in airplane mode is no different than having a dead battery in terms of usability.

Well, it's about the same as using Nokia 3310.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by rs186 »

scarface_74 wrote: post #505
philistine wrote: post #331

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They design the chip that powers the phone. Apple designs their chips to include exactly the IO they need, and nothing more. The A18 chip does not have the IO to support USB-3 speeds on the port. No A18 device supports USB 3 speeds. It's maddening but it is a question of cost; it's just pennies, and Apple is for sure not passing on the savings to us.

The 15 and 16 Pro lines support USB 3 speeds.

Neither of which uses A18.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by makeitdouble »

hug wrote: post #559
makeitdouble wrote: post #533

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> Would love a 5G MacBook with a data plan. I thoroughly enjoyed the ATP podcast discussion on this. Sounds like the base assumption is Apple is incapable of having decent tethering even as they control the whole ecosystem, including special protocols in-between their product they design 100% from hardware to software. But somehow pushing the modem in the MacBook solves this...because Apple is then good at managing t…

> Apple is incapable of having decent tethering even as they control the whole ecosystem Are they, though? Tethering from my MacBook to my iPhone or iPad is a pretty seamless experience, to the point I don't even think about it. And sometimes I get home from a cafe and forget I'm even tethering until I notice my iPhone battery is lower than expected. And this isn't Apple, but I don't even notice I'm not on my home LA…

If your sentiment is the most common, including a modem in MacBooks makes only sense for the tiniest of tiniest of user slice, and with Apple barely cattering to pro users, I can't imagine them investing further to solve a problem that isn't as simple as just slapping an extra part in the machine (which they traditionally hate).

On my side it was 90% there, a bit lagging to connect and totally failing from time to time , once in a week perhaps, but workable otherwise. The argument on the podcast was for having a 100% great solution like it does on the iPad, assuming an internal modem on macos would rainbows and ponnies.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by jerlam »

apparent wrote: post #402
Angostura wrote: post #139

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Same here. I'm hoping there will be a 19 mini

It wouldn't be crazy for them to offer a mini only every several generations. If the problem is that there isn't enough demand to justify design and tooling, it would make sense to let demand grow for 5-6 years, then release a new mini that all small phone lovers will buy.

Yup, Apple still makes a new iPad mini every 3-4 years, despite it being clearly worse on paper than the mainline iPad. But the last version was mostly a spec bump.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by DrBenCarson »

jerlam wrote: post #578
DrBenCarson wrote: post #467

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The overlap of the “cares about battery chemistry” and “purchases the lowest tier device” is probably close to 0 The C1 modem gets a line because Wall Street has seen that expense for a decade now, so this is a “win” for them. Battery chemistry is completely 3rd party, so they’ll claim the battery life improvement

The C1 modem is also not a feature that users care about, other than the increased battery life (that Apple does advertise). In fact, there will be concerns that the modem isn't as good as the existing ones in some edge case. Putting the new modem into the new "budget" phone reduces expectations so that the impact of any issues will be blunted. Only when all the problems have been ironed out, that will be when the ma…

Yes which is why I explained making the modem a highlight is for Wall Street.

They acquired part of Intel and worked on this for many years. Shareholders want to know what the result of all that money and time was.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by wilg »

josephg wrote: post #470
wilg wrote: post #345

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Fairly misleading, since according to the comparison on their site ( https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16,ip... ) the slightly-bigger 6.3 inch iPhone 16 Pro gets 27 hours of video playback vs the 16e's 26 hours. (Regular iPhone 16 is 22 though.)

> iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone

Yes I know, that's why it's misleading and not wrong.

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Post by blackguardx »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #537
DrBenCarson wrote: post #462

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Phones maintain a cellular connection even if most data is being transmitted over WiFi at any given moment Cellular modems are constantly reading and broadcasting messages to the cellular network unless they are explicitly turned off

But they use much more power when they are receiving data.

Sending data with a radio is always much more power intensive than receiving data unless the channel is extremely asymmetric in bandwidth and/or data rate.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by praisewhitey »

usui wrote: post #122

Apple leans its weight heavily on controversial smartphone changes and defines trends for the rest of the industry, even when it's not the first company to do so. When it removed the headphone jack, introduced the screen notch, or added a camera bump, everyone followed afterward despite the grumbling. So keeping that in mind, regarding the modem, I remember prior comments about it being near-impossible or extremely d…

Not seeing examples of comments claiming it being "near-impossible" in your linked discussion. Most of those comments are just grumbling about eSIMs.
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