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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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presidents can't pardon state crimes

What about criminal use of punctuation? :)

I believe Word Crimes are Weird Al's jurisdiction [1]

[1] https://youtu.be/8Gv0H-vPoDc?si=GLlj48cMtoKYVCRP

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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How much of it is tied up to a criminally overvalued Tesla stock though? Sure, Tesla could go to zero and he'd still be a fabulously wealthy man, but with how things are moving - It wouldn't surprise me that he's about the fall down the ranks. Let's see how much power he has once the "richest man in the world" aura fades away.

> How much of it is tied up to a criminally overvalued Tesla stock though? I don't know that, but I can say that he has an absurd amount liquidated. - Dec 15 2022: Sells 22m shares for $3.6bn https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/investing/elon-musk-tesla-stock-sale/index.html - Nov 4-8 2022: Sells 19.5m shares for $4bn https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-inc-technology-business-climate-and-environment-9ab471987539…

> “Where it is nearly (if not entirely) impossible to spend such sums of money.”

I’ve been looking at the idea of a tunnel between the UK and Ireland. Recent rough estimates were €15Bn and that probably didn’t include high speed trains on each side.

A new city, a 500km/h maglev line, paying spacex to build a moon base, launching a billion dollar prize fund for room temperature superconductor or graphene space elevator material research, paying a geoengineering project like military jets releasing reflective vapour into the upper atmosphere (last time I saw that price estimate was 2Bn and that was years ago), building a vanity vehicle project from scratch like reigniting the ocean going Ekranoplans or the Fairey Rotodyne, building the Elon Musk solar power plants in Texas to “unleash American energy“ with his name on it…

You would not casually spend that much on Lamborghinis and mansions in the Hollywood Hills, but if you wanted to do audacious or philanthropic things or get your name on mega-projects there are many countries with billion dollar projects one could fund. $30Bn would pay the city of Los Angeles budget for 2-3 years.

$30Bn he could give every American $90.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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There's certainly a part of me that wonders if Altman incorrectly assumes last year's rules still apply, when in fact he just ensured retribution from the man who counts all three branches of the United States government as his underlings.

Well, I certainly hope people like sama are still willing to push back, and don't just bend the knee immediately to President Musk. Surely there's at least one or two people out there in Silicon Valley that still have a backbone.

I mean, Altman also wrote this (https://x.com/sama/status/1882234406662000833):

> watching @potus more carefully recently has really changed my perspective on him (i wish i had done more of my own thinking and definitely fell in the npc trap).

> i'm not going to agree with him on everything, but i think he will be incredible for the country in many ways!

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> "Well, it's because they're so talented and brilliant [...]" It's interesting to draw comparisons between Sam Altman and Liang Wenfeng, CEO of Deepseek, the latter of which is a domain expert, the former an exalted entrepreneur, supposedly gifted in allocating capital. If Sam has just been lucky with his one bet so far, there's bound to be some market corrections that are going to shake the world just like in the d…

Deepseek is run by a hedge fund and they are 100% in it for the money and not the culty AI doom BS, which helps a bit.

Wenfeng built a quantitative trading company upon his search to utilize AI for financial gain. He then leveraged his earnings to take a moonshot on buying a mother lode of NVidia chips – in 2021, prior to the US export bans and the release of ChatGPT – to develop a next generation of AI. Open AI led the way, and Wenfeng was perfectly placed to learn from them and do something better, and, ironically, be more open than OpenAI. Perhaps Deepseek knew they couldn't make money by gatekeeping the model as OpenAI would quickly catch up, or perhaps it was Wenfeng's personal call to make and he just wanted the rest of the world – not just OpenAI, not just the US – to have a fighting chance before the world economy is about to be upended. Or more likely, Deepseek are holding an even more secret sauce that they are using for AI trading.

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And Tesla, who (in)famously doesn't regularly publish their GPL-derived codebases.

What’s the background here? How can we know they use GPL licensed code? Was there some leak?

Their infotaiment uses a customized Debian distro. On a Model S you could easily get a shell into it, because they used a freaking SSH with a password-based authentication over Ethernet to connect from the instrument cluster to the computer in the central console.

You could sniff the password with a man-in-the-middle attack, if you knew the host key of the instrument cluster. Here's one from my previous Model S: https://gist.github.com/Cyberax/ad9866ab4306d43957dc480db573...

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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was looking for a musk margin call in 2023, no such luck, now he’s VP and markets are still fake

Tesla sales are collapsing globally partly due to Musk's mental breakdown and are not likely to recover much, especially since Tesla no longer really has a CEO.

The stock seems to be unaware though

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

How much of it is tied up to a criminally overvalued Tesla stock though? Sure, Tesla could go to zero and he'd still be a fabulously wealthy man, but with how things are moving - It wouldn't surprise me that he's about the fall down the ranks. Let's see how much power he has once the "richest man in the world" aura fades away.

I've been hearing about the inevitable decline of Tesla for about 10 years now.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

#588

It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea. It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

I pay more taxes than Tesla.

Tesla took on a lot more losses than you ever did, decreasing their current day tax bill, so that's a meaningless comparison.

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So opposition spending $250M to win an election and then given control over government spending by that same president, while owning companies that have billions in government contracts, is Marxism? In most non-Marxist democratic countries, the above would be considered corruption.

Repeating myself from another comment.

The dems outspent republicans by a billion or so, so 250M didn't do much. If it did, Kamala would've won by a lot.

Way more billionaires supported Kamala vs. Trump (83 vs 52).

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