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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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The EU Consumer Sales and Guarantees Directive is designed to protect consumers when they purchase goods, including new cars. Here are some key points about the directive as it relates to new car purchases:

  Legal Guarantee: Consumers are entitled to a minimum two-year legal guarantee for new cars. This means that if the car has a defect or does not conform to the contract, the consumer has the right to have it repaired or replaced at no cost.
  Presumption of Defects: If a defect is discovered within the first six months after purchase, it is presumed to have existed at the time of delivery. This shifts the burden of proof to the seller, who must demonstrate that the defect was not present when the car was sold.
  Repair or Replacement: Consumers can choose between having the car repaired or replaced. If neither option is feasible or if the seller fails to act within a reasonable time, the consumer may be entitled to a price reduction or a full refund.
  Additional Rights: The directive does not limit consumers' rights to additional warranties or guarantees offered by manufacturers or dealers. Consumers can still benefit from any extended warranties that may be provided.
  Cross-Border Purchases: The directive also applies to cross-border purchases within the EU, ensuring that consumers have the same level of protection regardless of where they buy their car.
  Enforcement: Member states are responsible for enforcing the directive, and consumers can seek redress through national consumer protection authorities if their rights are violated.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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It makes total sense: consumers don't like it when EVs automatically slam on the brakes to get rid of rust :). Unfortunately, you can't generate enough friction to do this without the car moving, which is why it has to be done manually.

The car doesn't have to SLAM the brakes. It just has to use them a bit like a regular car.

If the user just uses regen braking, they are never hitting their brake when they are moving. You would have to work it somehow into the regen, but the stopping curves are completely different for the two, so you would probably wind up surprising the driver if you decided to arbitrarily engage the brake rather than use regen.

Your assumption is that regen and braking have the same behavior and are interchangeable, but I don't think that's the case beyond both of them being used to stop.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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In the meantime, the self declared founder (who is not), genius (who is not), self-made man (who is not) is busy playing video games, sharing random crap on Xitter, and trying to break a goverment he was not elected to run in a country where he is a foreign alien. Shareholders must be thrilled!

> is busy playing video games

Funny thing, he faked that too. For a guy with so much money he is weirdly insecure about some absurd stuff

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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In October 2024 you already knew who Musk was and you still contributed with money to the cause. His power derives mainly from Tesla sales and he was already using it to support the president of Project 2025, but much much worse, he is now supporting the German AfD. Their eventual victory would have a deeply negative impact in the EU. When people don’t consider the preservation of democracy in their purchasing decisions it means they don’t cherish it enough.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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I have a 22 Miata with all options, which is about shortest hood you can get in the us. The vehicle HAS A front facing camera, it takes up a huge portion of the front windscreen. There's no way to see an image from the front camera. Is it there to....To tell me if i'm...about to crash? it has no automatic cruise or anything. Absolutely puzzling. Another gripe about this car; "car play" works about half the time. Mayb…

I have a ‘21 Miata with the same gripes. The CarPlay situation got slightly better with an OS upgrade last year – now it only crashes about 10% of the time, and 75% of those recover on their own without needing a power-cycle. The lack of adaptive cruise is baffling. We test drove a ‘15 CX-something-or-other in 2014 and it had the ability to brake automatically (dealer was very interested in demoing this feature). I a…

Mind boggling. I've had the same OS update applied, reflashed, etc. Still the same an I stopped chasing it :(

When it comes to mazda it's hard to understand why they do the things they do. We can only be happy they haven't turned miata into a crossover yet.

Great car!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Grass ain't always greener. Depending on your locale, you're going to need to replace all suspension, steering, exhaust, frame peices etc. on that 09' car you bought used for 6. Will quickly approach 20k in time and money, and at that point, most people bite the bullet and deal with new car bullshit/payments.

Bought a 10 years old clio with 80k km, which needed like 500€ service when bought. Now at 15 years and 200k km still running strong, with less than 300€ service costs yearly.

I'm jealous.

I live in salt belt in US, have a 14 year old hatchback. This year alone I have had to replace 2 of the 6 control arms, rear rotors, all pads, parking brake cable (ugh), strut/shock assembly up front , clutch and brake masters, rear wheel hubs, trailing arms. That alone is like 4k in my time, nevermind the parts or if I brought them to a shop.

last year I did clutch job, vent/purge valves, intake cleaning, timing job....easily 5k

I am very jealous you have somehow avoided these things with the Clio. Idk how mazda managed to make my hatch out of seemingly rust.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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As a Jew there’s no difference to me between those who knowingly repeat Nazi slogans (i.e AfD) and “real” Nazis. It’s very easy to not be a Nazi, it’s unnecessary to make excuses for those who know what they are doing. Germans (i.e. ethnic German citizens), should be held to a higher standard, because they are educated on this, there’s no excuse.

IDK, but hating on certain group (i.e. AfD) sounds you are somewhat of a nazi yourself then. AfD are huge Israel supporters (they anti-muslim tho) - https://www.timesofisrael.com/loathed-by-jews-germanys-far-r...

Israel supporter and antisemite aren't mutually exclusive[0]. In the past it was to get the Jews out of Europe (be it to Madagascar or Palestine), now it's because they hate Muslims more than Jews and see Israeli society as a template for a similar far-right Christian society.

Obviously most AfD supporters are not everyday antisemites, but they are casting their votes for antisemites. I don't care to split hairs. Germans know better and do not get to plead ignorance.

Musk could perhaps have been given the benefit of the doubt, he doesn't seem to understand European politics so it's possible he could have confused AfD as being the German equivalent of Reform UK or RN (neither of which want to be associated with AfD) ...that is until he made that salute.

[0] nor are anti-Zionist and Jew mutually exclusive for that matter. Before WWII the creation of Israel was the subject of debate within the Jewish community. The Holocaust and happenings in the Soviet Union obviously shifted that debate firmly in one direction. In some sense the Palestinians are victims of the European far-right and far-left by proxy, though I am not shifting blame.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Bought a 10 years old clio with 80k km, which needed like 500€ service when bought. Now at 15 years and 200k km still running strong, with less than 300€ service costs yearly.

I'm jealous. I live in salt belt in US, have a 14 year old hatchback. This year alone I have had to replace 2 of the 6 control arms, rear rotors, all pads, parking brake cable (ugh), strut/shock assembly up front , clutch and brake masters, rear wheel hubs, trailing arms. That alone is like 4k in my time, nevermind the parts or if I brought them to a shop. last year I did clutch job, vent/purge valves, intake cleanin…

Spare parts for clios are there practically free, since it's so common - also mechanics like them, since older models are very simple to service.

Largest parts I had to replace so far were exhaust (60€ for part) last year and exhaust hatch (I don't know if that's the correct english term for that, 80€ for part) this year. Brake pads I had to change twice so far, but it was also pretty cheap.

With my mother I have a joke that rebuilding my clio from scratch would probably cost me less than tire change on her merc.

The only annoyance I have with it is that it's eating through light bulbs at annoying pace, since electricity in the older clios tends to be a bit funky. But okay, that's a 5min change usually.

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