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Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by h0l0cube »

armchairhacker wrote: post #556
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

Elon Musk is the #1 richest man in the world, out of >7 billion. Everyone knows who he is. Celebrities to him are almost what commoners are to rich people. Joe Rogan, the biggest podcaster, has Wealth, attention, and power influence people. If you had more of them, or a solid chance at more, you'd be influenced too.

> Wealth, attention, and power influence people

I think in this case, it attracts the avaricious rather than changes their beliefs. Joe Rogan can be influenced by poor lunatics as much as rich ones. As much as I can tell of peoples' opinions of the All In pod (never listened), it sounds like they were always sell-outs (or their beliefs have not strayed)

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by demosthanos »

hot_topic wrote: post #576
impulser_ wrote: post #499

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Com is just a general term for crime communities on the Internet. Its not a specific group. The Com includes groups that commit crimes stretching from cybercrime to literally the worst crimes you can think of and the vast majority of this is done on Discord and Telegram. You can go down a really dark rabbit hole if you really dig deep into some of these groups within The Com. This is where the worst of the worst…

no it isn't. What a blind take. As someone who has ventured down these forums when I was younger. Its a mix of gamers/programmers/online hustlers. Some of it is grey area, some if it is renting out RDP's/VPNS for malicious users acting as middlemen for the criminals. The mob mentality of rule following software engineers on here who are throwing out the accusation that these are all hardened criminals that want to bu…

Even Urban Dictionary, hardly a site dominated by rule-following career software engineers, defines a Com as revolving around crime:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Com

Maybe Urban Dictionary is also populated by people who misunderstand the community, or maybe you weren't as deep as you thought.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by BuildTheRobots »

jillyboel wrote: post #539
pityJuke wrote: post #338

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No, this is clearly not the same guy. This is just someone who took Coristine's previous handle [0]. That post was made 1 day after the WIRED article revealing his handle. Lots of conspiracies around election stealing going round (and sadly, quite prevalent in some corners of Bluesky), don't fall for it! [0]: https://www.wired.com/story/edward-coristine-tesla-sexy-path... - "He also *previously* used an account on X…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gCyRkpPe8 Elon Musk knows 'those vote counting computers' -Trump

The Olympics comment seemed more damning. He literally said twice they rigged the election.

> They all came in on the Olympics. And then I saw [Gulati] and we got the World Cup too. And you know, it's only because they rigged the election that I'll be your president representing you there. You know, I got both of them. I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup. And I said, you know, it's too bad. One was in 2026 or the other was in 2028. I said, I won't be there. I won't be your president.(...) But then they rigged the election and now we won. So I'm going to be your president for the Olympics and for the World Cup.(...) So [Gulati], thank you for the World Cup and everybody. Thank you for the Olympics.

https://youtu.be/TTHonqrM7Vc

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by h0l0cube »

belorn wrote: post #114

It has been a fairly common story, and part rumor, that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene, and that the IT security industry also adapted this approach. They basically becomes part informer and part subject expert, especially since IT security expertise seems to be a difficult subject matter to teach in universities. When I studied IT security in university, about 1…

> that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene

Just linking this back to the story, am I mistaken in saying that DOGE is not an intelligence agency? (It certainly is a great position to exfiltrate information however.)

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by senordevnyc »

hot_topic wrote: post #576
impulser_ wrote: post #499

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Com is just a general term for crime communities on the Internet. Its not a specific group. The Com includes groups that commit crimes stretching from cybercrime to literally the worst crimes you can think of and the vast majority of this is done on Discord and Telegram. You can go down a really dark rabbit hole if you really dig deep into some of these groups within The Com. This is where the worst of the worst…

no it isn't. What a blind take. As someone who has ventured down these forums when I was younger. Its a mix of gamers/programmers/online hustlers. Some of it is grey area, some if it is renting out RDP's/VPNS for malicious users acting as middlemen for the criminals. The mob mentality of rule following software engineers on here who are throwing out the accusation that these are all hardened criminals that want to bu…

You mean outside of the sites where the vast majority of the online traffic and economic activity happen?

Do you really think that anything would meaningfully change in the world if these little niche communities disappeared tomorrow? They’re a rounding error on the internet.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by btheunissen »

mvf4z7 wrote: post #546
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

Could not agree more. The All In guys stopped engaging in thought provoking and critical conversations a long time ago. And holy hell, Jason Calacanis is the biggest weasel on the podcast. At least the other turds own who they are, while Jason will be whatever gets him access to the “in crowd”.

I don't like David or Chamath, but it is quite mind-blowing how little Jason C seems to have accomplished vs. the other two, his entire claim to fame appears to be trolling online and being close enough to the rest of the PayPal mafia to be be able to feed on their scraps.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by reaperman »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

I don't understand what relevance the All-In podcast has to this article written by Brian Krebs. Did I miss a reference to it in the article, or is there a non-obvious connection that someone could point out?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Cornbilly »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #391
alecco wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did everybody already forget only a month ago it was revealed Chinese hackers had access to US Treasury computers including US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen 's own? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/chinese-h... ( https://archive.ph/xeEaO ) (January 16, 2025)

I find it strange that neither activists nor politicians nor journalists cared about that enough to make it a continuous news cycle. There was also no outrage about various security breaches that exposed personal information for 100 million Americans , like the Change Healthcare breach. The reaction to alleged violation of privacy here seems inconsistent and disproportionate, and I wonder why?

Because those were done by state or criminal actors and this one is allegedly being done with the consent of our elected government? It’s really not that difficult to figure out.

Why don’t you just state your opinion instead of being vague?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

varsketiz wrote: post #301

An angle I didn't notice discussed here on HN is that while this confusion about DOGE among the general US public continues, it's a great time for China to advance it's agenda and to weaken the US.

I can almost guarantee that channels of communication have opened between the EU, Canada, and other allies and the Chinese gov't on ways to de-escalate existing tariffs and restrictions (that were often enacted in concert with the US) now that the US has turned on them.

Here in Canada we put 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs the same time as the US did, as part of an attempt to defend the local autosector, which lives on both side of the border.

But if Trump is set to demolish that anyways, and make it infeasible for the Big3 to work effectively across North America, how long before China comes knocking?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by cozzyd »

_kb wrote: post #410
ineptech wrote: post #94

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What's more worrying is whether the access can realistically be revoked. As a general rule, when a security even rises to the level of root access to internal systems, you don't even try to remove them - you just rebuild the affected VMs from scratch because it's the only way to be sure the attacker didn't leave anything behind. For the systems we're talking about, payment processing stuff at Treasury and Social Secu…

You don’t just rebuild the VMs. You burn the DC and start again from scratch. That’s exactly what Cloudflare had to do: https://blog.cloudflare.com/thanksgiving-2023-security-incid...

The double entendre of DC is amusing here
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