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>The OP is just taking the "everything I don't like is fascist" trope to it's natural conclusion. Up next: Stalin actually a Nazi. That's terminologically wrong, yet practically sensible conclusion. Some European countries in fact ban both communist and nazi ideologies and public display of their symbols as their authoritarian and genocidal tendencies are incompatible with democratic principles in said countries cons…
Countries like Hungary. Not a place I think anyone should try and emulate.
Goulash, tokay wine, vizsla dogs, Franz Liszt. A terrible people.
Edit: Ervin Laszlo, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Peter Lorre, Harry Houdini, a wide selection of pastries. :) Also Viktor Orban, but what can you do.
Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'
#583These people? https://nypost.com/2025/01/30/us-news/killing-of-border-patr... Is the appellation in the headline, "radical vegan trans cult," a true description? > Authorities now say the guns used by Youngblut and Bauckholt are owned by a person of interest in other murders — and connected to a mysterious cult of transgender “geniuses” who follow a trans leader named Jack LaSota, also known by the alias “Ziz.” Is al…
The NY Post tried to frame them as "radical leftist", but that's a big stretch. I don't think most rationalists would consider themselves leftist. The article also seems to be leaning into the current "trans panic" - pretty typical for the NYP.
Who is making a statement about "most rationalists" here? The claim is about a trans vegan murder cult, which doesn't appear to be a natural member of the right side of the political spectrum.
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it's been an exhausting couple of weeks for me, as a trans person. one executive order after another, explicitly attacking us. scrambling to update all my documents, navigating a Kafkaesque bureaucracy with constantly shifting rules. now this. there are like six Zizians. there are millions of trans people. I'm sure that many of the Zizians being trans says something about the Ziz cult, but Ziz doesn't say anything ab…
I know I sound crazy saying what I'm about to say but it is the truth as I understand it and I think it's important. It appears to me that there is a certain modality of thought that occurs much more often in people with hEDS, specifically those with TNXB SNPs. If you're super deep into type theory the odds substantially increase that you have hEDS - it's how I found out that I had it. And this same group is far more…
>Of note; Ted Kaczynski did consider gender reassignment back in 1966.
That happened after he got brainwashed, from the age of 16, through the CIA's MK ULTRA experiment though.
Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'
#585Most of the news coverage I've seen of this story is omitting what some might consider a relevant detail: almost all the members of this group are trans. This is a divisive topic, but failing to mention this makes me worry a story is pushing a particular agenda rather than trying to tell the facts. Here's what the story looks like if the trans activism is considered central to the story: https://thepostmillennial.com…
WARNING: The Post Millennial is an extremist website.
I can’t believe that getting “news” about an extremist group from another extremist organization is a productive way to make sense of the world.
Honestly, read whatever you want but just be aware that radical extremist exist and commit horrific crimes and other radical extremist will exploit that.
It is radical extremism that’s dangerous in and of itself—not just a particular brand of radical extremism.
Carry on.
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That's probably true, but the larger issue is that we're unlikely to redefine society in the name of making less than 1% of the population feel better. The US has struggled for centuries with the question of how to better treat far more number minorities, such as black people... and women. At some point the, "change society" approach is bound to create backlash that such a small movement can't sustain, and frankly we…
> we're unlikely to redefine society in the name of making less than 1% of the population feel better If I can deal with idiot conspiracy theorists the evangelicals can deal with trans people.
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> Plenty of antisocial (or worse) behaviour has been promulgated by those indisputably at the top of the social food chain. This isn't a counterpoint to "fix the world," because those "at the top of the social food chain" are, of course, partners in an oppressor/oppressed dynamic that prevents both parties from realize their full human potential. "As the oppressors dehumanize others and violate their rights, they the…
If you consider the winners to also be "dehumanised" by their ongoing winning in cultural and financial terms, as this Freire apparently did, then sure. But they themselves -- the ongoing winners -- certainly did not, that being the reason for their actions in the first place. The other relevant opinion would be that of the "losers" -- the people oppressed by the winners. Did they feel that the winners were oppressin…
> the ongoing winners -- certainly did not
Well, how could they have known?
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I'm not confused at all. I just don't think compatibilism is legitimate :) I absolutely do not believe anyone chooses to be of any religion. It's just luck.
Plenty of incompatibilist determinists agree that choices exist, they just deny that they are in any meaningful sense "free" Whereas you said "No one chooses to be anything", which is a denial of the existence of choice altogether Whether or not you are confused inside your own head, you are expressing yourself in an imprecise and confusing way
Yes, we probably are using the word "choice" differently.
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> we're unlikely to redefine society in the name of making less than 1% of the population feel better Believe it or not, there are actually many popular, far-reaching political ideologies centered around helping "the least of us." It's not such a foreign concept. Furthermore, the particular ways in which the transgender population is oppressed happen to coincide with many of the ways in which cis women are infamously…
Those ideologies certainly exist, but I can't say that I've ever heard of one staying in power for very long, at least not while genuinely pursuing that ideology. Far more often "for the least of us" is the pitch that gets you in the door, but no real attempt to deliver is ever made. So again, I'm not debating the value of pursuing these rights, I'm pointing out that this is view opposed by billions. You can't just d…
> You can't just declare the rightness of your cause and hope it catches on.
Well, duh.
Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'
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I'm not confused at all. I just don't think compatibilism is legitimate :) I absolutely do not believe anyone chooses to be of any religion. It's just luck.
Plenty of incompatibilist determinists agree that choices exist, they just deny that they are in any meaningful sense "free" Whereas you said "No one chooses to be anything", which is a denial of the existence of choice altogether Whether or not you are confused inside your own head, you are expressing yourself in an imprecise and confusing way
It seems to go like this:
Compatibilists: free will is a term for something real that we do.
Incompatibilists: no, that thing is trivial and should have a different name. Free will is a term for something impossible. But despite being impossible it's a meaningful concept. And it's somehow hugely important and deserves a name.
I'm unclear about the motivation for this, especially the last part.