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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by johnnyanmac »

gunalx wrote: post #376

Why is this generic news article on hacker news. The guidelines clearly states anything you would probably find in regular National news probably shouldn't be on hacker news. I want to get a break from the regular newscycle when going here.

>anything you would probably find in regular National news

1. I guess we can finally ban all those AI posts, then. And any lawsuit annooucement/updates.

2. you missed a caveat:

>Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, *unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon*. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

I'd say an ex-president's death, one who outlived several procedding presidents , is an interesting new phenomenon.

as a tangent: that makes trump not only the oldest president ever elected, but also the oldest living president. only barely edging out W. Bush and Clinton. Kind of crazy.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by johnnyanmac »

macrocosmos wrote: post #239
metabagel wrote: post #228

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There was definitely a perception at the time that Carter wasn’t doing enough, but we can ask ourselves whether that perception was justified.

Creating that perception is part of the president’s job though. One of the president’s roles is as a figurehead and they set the tone for the country. Setting an overwhelmingly bad tone across an entire nation that was so bad I even know about despite being born after the man even was president is awful. So yes I’d say depressing and embarrassing hundreds of millions of people probably had a negative effect on the na…

Yes. And Carter was an honest president. Which ended in his downfall. He was a bad president in the sense that he couldn't do proper PR with smokes and mirrors like every president afterwards.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by sota_pop »

silisili wrote: post #180
UncleOxidant wrote: post #133

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When you compare Carter with the guy who's going to take office next month it shows how far we've fallen as a country. The previous era was already passing since about 2016, but with the death of Carter it seems like that era has died with him and it just feels very depressing.

While I agree with the general sentiment, I think the same could have been said regardless of which candidate won. It feels like the left moved left, the right moved right, and instead of catering to moderates, threatening them to pick a side. Said another way, I think a young Jimmy Carter type candidate would have wiped the floor with either side this election.

I see this as the crux of most issues in modern American politics - that is, the primary elections… they act a feedback loop galvanizing each party. i.e. the fact that you can’t become “the repub/dem candidate” unless you represent the party’s values to the most extreme extent means the selection of a moderate candidate becomes increasingly unlikely with time.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by bpodgursky »

cyberge99 wrote: post #544
zeven7 wrote: post #447

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“ Three of the panels are part of museum collections. One of the panels was donated by Unity College to the National Museum of American History in 2009. Another is on display at the Jimmy Carter Presidential Center. A third panel has been part of the Solar Science and Technology Museum in Dezhou, China since 2013.” [1] Sounds like America chose “museum piece” from Carter’s options. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki…

It represents the road not taken. Reagan removed solar panels.

Sort of. They had to replace the roof, and they didn't reinstall them.

(they were also not "solar panels" it was solar water heating and it was sorta useful but mostly symbolic).

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by tptacek »

rayiner wrote: post #552
bdndndndbve wrote: post #125

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FDR doesn't make the cut?

When historians study the U.S. a thousand years in the future his presidency will be the demarcation line between the Anglo-American Republic and the semi-democracy we live in now.

Jesus Christ, dude.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by benatkin »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #566
benatkin wrote: post #116

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And the video has 16 upvotes on YouTube? Not that I wish it had more, because Habitat for Humanity might not be among the best major humanitarian charities. https://www.propublica.org/article/habitat-for-humanity-broo...

11 years old and I doubt HfH was spamming their channel with reactions, memes, and Crazy challenges (GONE SEXUAL!). A lot of the "good content" isn't as "watchable", sadly. I am glad more and more well produced channels are starting to buck this trend though. They won't ever be Mr. Beast levels, but they amass a solid following.

2013 was a big year on YouTube, it was the year after Gangnam Style came out - the first YouTube video to reach a billion views. When I see old videos on there I often see a high upvote count.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by kbelder »

jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

Carter set back nuclear power in the US a lot. Emissions would be in much better shape if he hadn't done that.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by triceratops »

llm_trw wrote: post #202
xattt wrote: post #176

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> the US would be in a much better place This would have been the case with Gore (2000) and Clinton (2016) too.

Gore was a bigger warmonger than Bush in the 2000 election. I don't see how we would have had a better outcome with him in power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nW2Uow-zk&pp=ygUeQnVzaCBub... In case you don't believe that.

I don't believe that.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by triceratops »

onetimeusename wrote: post #331
jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

What's your opinion on China's and India's carbon dioxide emissions over the next 10 years?

Not all that high, considering they're almost half of humanity.

If they were fractured into 200 different countries, no one would say boo about them.

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