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Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by dgfitz »

relaxing wrote: post #238
dgfitz wrote: post #213

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> Ross Douthat is still employed so your assertion falls flat on its face. I have no idea who that is. > Aside from that, right now I see an item claiming Harris has flip-flopped on progressive policies. I have no idea if this is true. Has she? Who is the authority on that?

Then go read the NYT front page and find out? He’s always there because he’s pure clickbait. Whether it’s true or not is irrelevant. “Flip flop” is an insult in politics.

Uh, no? Why the hell does anyone read mainstream media anymore?

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Post by smabie »

codr7 wrote: post #520
smabie wrote: post #504

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Your entire comment basically talks about how a Yale degree means you probably better tho?

Better at playing the Yale game, which is obviously useful in this society but says little else about the person.

Useful in society says a lot?

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by dgfitz »

sudosysgen wrote: post #233
dgfitz wrote: post #225

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> Compare for example media treatment of Sanders or even Warren when he opposed her and you can see that it's not her leftist tendencies that made her win in the media. Respectfully I don’t accept your premise here. You’re saying she was center of left? But still “left”, as it were? And you agree the media crowned her king months before the election? So the media ordained her the winner. You do agree or you do not?

I am saying that the media was enamored with her because she represented a shift rightwards compared to her predecessors, and that her campaign successfully shifted the leftmost acceptable economic policies to be to the right of the electorate. In that the media vastly prefered her over Trump, it was because she was pro-establishment and better aligned with corporate interests, not because she was economically to his…

> … her campaign successfully shifted the leftmost acceptable economic policies to be to the right of the electorate.

Huh. If that were true she would have won. So it can’t be true. Unless your claim is “the right was too far right” in which case your “right-of-the-electorate” cannot be mathematically true.

Were you trying to make a different point? The current one doesn’t hold water.

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by Yawrehto »

I wonder how long it'll stay. The poor strikers at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette have been going for 22 months[1] (!) so far. It's impressive. Until then, they've set up the Pittsburgh Union-Progress.[2]

What's weird is how no one seems to mention it, even in Pittsburgh. How can a strike go on for 22 months with (almost) no one noticing/caring?

[1] https://www.unionprogress.com/2024/08/24/a-22-month-strike-j...

[2] Which is somehow only one of several nonprofit news outlets covering Pittsburgh? Aside from the Union-Progress there's Publicsource, the Allegheny Front, WQED, WESA, the Pittsburgh Jewish Chronicle, and the semi-local 100 Days in Appalachia, Belt Magazine, Spotlight PA. (As well as the just-closed Pittsburgh Institute for Nonprofit Journalism.) It feels weirdly disproportionate to its population. Is there any data on the cities most overrepresented in nonprofit news outlets covering them? Or just news outlets?

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by tomcam »

kennywinker wrote: post #489
tomcam wrote: post #261

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It appears you’ve bought into some anti-capitalism talking points. Wealth concentrating in shareholder hands may very well make the world better. A huge amount of that is in pension funds. This helps your parents remain independent in retirement. And while I agree that eliminating those 100 workers is terribly painful for many of them, it’s incumbent upon them to plan ahead for those contingencies. Likewise the inves…

> It appears you’ve bought into some anti-capitalism talking points. Wealth concentrating in shareholder hands may very well make the world better. A huge amount of that is in pension funds. This helps your parents remain independent in retirement. So all the people in my generation who won't be able to save up the ~1mil required to retire comfortably? or the people from previous generations who worked until they lit…

Can you tell me where I claimed capitalism works perfectly for everybody?

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

As a former Sunday NYT subscriber I would like to see more pay go to hiring and retaining journalists and less to so-called "tech" workers. The web development nonsense has made the NYT worse, not better to this reader. Other readers may disagree.

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by ramon156 »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #329
aurareturn wrote: post #267

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Isn’t it a little ironic that NY Times, and most east coast media, is very anti big tech and pro union while their own employees are protesting because of low wages? Who are they to judge how big tech treats their employees when they pay their own so poorly?

> Who are they to judge how big tech treats their employees when they pay their own so poorly? The journalists (and tech workers) don't decide their own salary. You conflated "they" as both management and the people being managed, to make it "ironic."

Uh hello, journalists also don't choose the theme they write in. That's also management

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Post by WalterBright »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #562
WalterBright wrote: post #507

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Biden's $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/... I've never heard of a private company that inept and corrupt.

The Biden Admin didn't spend the money, it made the money __available to the States__ to fund proposals and contracts which the __States__ are responsible to manage. The money is __allocated__, but it's not __spent__ until the States finish viable proposals, and with a completely new technology, that takes the States time. > “State transportation agencies are the recipients of the money," ... “Nearly all of them had…

The state government is government, too.

Re: New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a strike

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Post by WalterBright »

missedthecue wrote: post #579
WalterBright wrote: post #508

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> Women, who make up 41% of the Tech Guild, earn 12% less on average than men Such statistics are meaningless without more context. For example, are women over-represented in entry level positions? Do they work the same hours? the same overtime? And so forth. Articles that present such statistics are pushing propaganda.

I've always wondered why companies don't overhire women to save on labor costs. The only explanations I can rationalize is that management isnt aware of the pay difference, or they are aware but they're more sexist than they are greedy.

> I've always wondered why companies don't overhire women to save on labor costs.

And you should, as any selfish greedy company would do exactly that.

The beauty of the free market is it relies on selfish, greedy behavior to produce prosperity, rather than hopelessly trying to crush such behavior.

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