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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by _yb2s »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Same here… I understand the advances and even like reading about them, but in the end I don’t care about having them- the phones are mature tech that still do the same thing.

The annoying thing is that somehow they manage to make it so the same apps doing the same thing either get too slow or stop working over time, so you have to upgrade to get the same functionality. I usually keep a device until it cannot do something I need that it could do just fine the day before….

There’s also the security update thing but I think that is overblown. Ironically, if you have a very old device it ages out of being targeted for attacks. I have never had a very old device get compromised.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by brk »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Hmmm. You are possibly dating my wife.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by tomcam »

makeitdouble wrote: post #517
arcticbull wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

> iPhone SE 1st Generation To note, that's a regional thing. It seems to stop at gen2 for Asian countries for ex. > Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years iPhone batteries become subpar way faster than that, especially the older models who get more strained as they bear the heavier OS. Once every year and a half looks more realistic to me.

> iPhone batteries become subpar way faster than that, especially the older models who get more strained as they bear the heavier OS

Anecdote from one person who buys lots of phones for extended family: I see no such phenomenon

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kietay »

jmyeet wrote: post #405
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Apple is engaging in feature-bloat to protect the $1000 price point. That's all that's going on here. Phones (particularly iPhones0 have stubbornly resisted getting cheaper. That's by design. Features get added simply to make it more expensive. We saw this with the Macbooks about a decade ago. The Macbook Air was fantastic because it was cheap. For Apple it was too cheap. So we got Touch bar. Did it solve any user pr…

The MacBook Air never had a Touch Bar

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by zer0zzz »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> You could set her back 8 iOS versions and she probably wouldn't notice. Because she uses none of the hundreds of features released since.

Not a chance. I think she would immediately notice because the web of today is always going to be far more bloated than the web of eight generations ago.

Trying any dated browser+hardware combo on the modern web is noticeable to all users I feel.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

The company needs S. Jobs to be resurrected.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by lurking_swe »

callalex wrote: post #477
KoolKat23 wrote: post #461

They mention battery life in this release 11 times without saying how long the battery will last. Please Apple, even just a typical usage number would be great. It's been many generations since I've had an Apple device, and each year they release a new one I try figure out how long the battery lasts, to no avail. Nobody I know has bought a Max Pro either. With Apple, you never know, it could still be 10 hours battery…

Still no user-replaceable battery even though they claim to care about the environment.

You can never please everyone. Not sure if you realize, it’s trivial to get a new battery replaced once every 3 or 4 years. Apple store can do it, as well 3rd party repair shops in most cities. Takes 15-45 minutes, depends how busy the shop is.

Perhaps you’re more annoyed about right to repair in general? That’s a different story…

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by theptip »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I would agree on say 14->15 but I find it somewhat ironic that this version contains what could be one of the biggest changes in many years; Apple Intelligence is putting local-first LLMs into the OS.

I predict that in retrospect this will be considered a watershed moment in computing.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by 10u152 »

user3939382 wrote: post #350
arcticbull wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

Assuming those prices are correct and the procedure is that convenient, it doesn't practically exist if most people aren't aware of it. From my casual observations most people suffer with bad batteries until buying a new model.

If you click on battery health in settings it will literally set up a link to request the replacement service, very minimal friction.
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