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Soldiers can do that perfectly well too.
Only if they have faith in you and your legitimacy.
That's a valid point. They certainly need more persuasion than machines.
Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide
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Re: Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide
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it implies an unlikely homogeneity of thought process. it only takes one person to think different and they would end up making bank.
....That's what "systemic" means . It doesn't "only take one person" to try something like that. It takes one person who is already part of the capital class—ie, someone who is already wealthy, a category correlated, if somewhat loosely, with the exact bigotries listed here. It takes someone who has, statistically speaking, made their money by being ruthless about it deciding they want to take a huge risk with it rat…
> It also takes enough people in the marginalized classes who are within the target industry, who actually hear about the business, who are looking for a job, who are qualified, who can prove to the hirers' satisfaction that they are qualified.
I thought the assumption was that they were already present in order to get a lower wage. if they are just not present, then I don't understand the argument. your belief that there is absolutely nobody greedy enough to make it happen seems unrealistic.
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#583Interesting how the obvious exposure to violence and what psychosomatic/organical damage it causes also to those merely exposed to it, regardless of which “side“ you’re on, is not mentioned at all. The correlations are well researched in trauma studies.
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There was a rather scathing study on it here. [1] In short the government's own internal investigations realized the obvious answer, a mass hysteria event, was the most likely culprit. But politics got involved and so then they classified reports mentioning this, and released reports suggestive of foreign adversaries attacking people with some mystery weapon, even though their own internal reports put the chances of…
Any thoughts on this 60 minutes piece with circumstantial evidence that this is a GRU driven program using an ultrasonic system of some kind: https://youtu.be/JdPSD1SUYCY?si=DQNJ6EwFbwbPiDS1
Usually when I read or watch something news related, I try to revert it back into the author's outline. What I mean is that when somebody's writes an article, they start with a few facts, and then add a bunch of words and, in modern times, spin on top. But I'm mostly only interested in those few facts. They can be compared against other sources, challenged (or verified), and so on. So for instance in the article for this topic it'd look something like:
- a very small minority of navy seals have committed suicide after exhibiting signs of psychological disorders
- post-mortem analysis showed damage that could be related to exposure to blasts
- blasts causing brain damage? perhaps in training?
Everything else that's written is (to me) pretty much irrelevant. Because in science, a good scientist engaging in good science would now setout to reject their own hypothesis. And only after trying to refute it in every way imaginable might they begin to accept it as even possible, and then set out to test it, again with the goal of rejecting it, so much as possible. But media goes the other way and now runs around collecting statements, data, and evidence in favor of their hypothesis, but you can collect practically endless evidence in support of ideas that are false (which is why science focuses on rejecting your own ideas instead), so it's quite a pointless endeavor.
I tried to do the same with the 60 minutes article (going by the transcript), but failed. The reason is that what they presented sounds pretty silly if you remove it from the "flow." A Russian working in America as a chef, who previously worked as a military comms guy, is arrested for speeding/evading arrest and has a device to allegedly wipe his car's comp? That doesn't even really qualify as circumstantial evidence, because it's just not at all logically connected unless you're playing a game of "connect the dots." And one can do that, but in the end you mostly just end up drawing a Jackson Pollock.
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#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
One way to think about it is via the concept of body autonomy/sovereignty: your life is in your hands. IMHO dignified peaceful suicide should be a right granted to all free individuals. If one is free to live, why is one not free to die? But that is too radical of an idea, and upsets all sorts of people (especially the money men) Sometimes opting out is the only rational choice. If there is no support in society for…
> People who are uncomfortable with suicide are ultimately uncomfortable with facing the reality that they live in a society that encourages it. It really does seem like projection. In the US, neighbors will pay for your funeral but not your insulin. Collective disinterest in being confronted with the problem.
> In the US, neighbors will pay for your funeral
They do? Genuinely curious.
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#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
....That's what "systemic" means . It doesn't "only take one person" to try something like that. It takes one person who is already part of the capital class—ie, someone who is already wealthy, a category correlated, if somewhat loosely, with the exact bigotries listed here. It takes someone who has, statistically speaking, made their money by being ruthless about it deciding they want to take a huge risk with it rat…
> It also takes enough people in the marginalized classes who are within the target industry, who actually hear about the business, who are looking for a job, who are qualified, who can prove to the hirers' satisfaction that they are qualified. I thought the assumption was that they were already present in order to get a lower wage. if they are just not present, then I don't understand the argument. your belief that…
> I thought the assumption was that they were already present in order to get a lower wage.
OK, congratulations. You have satisfied one of the conditions I said were necessary.
Just in my line that you quote there are 5.
You want a pat on the back for solving bigotry forever?
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh. It's almost like these bigotries are structural, embedded throughout the system and making it much harder for anyone subject to them to get into the "owner class"...
it implies an unlikely homogeneity of thought process. it only takes one person to think different and they would end up making bank.
Begging you to stop holding onto your thought experiment and look at the actual data. There’s a lot of it. There’s literally an academic consensus on the question. They’re not all wrong because it never occurred to them to apply an arbitrage argument.
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>US can fight three peer That's never been doctorine for the simple reason US hasn't had (near) peer rivals until PRC in last 30 years. Peak hyperpower US 90s doctorine was calibrated for 2 "major" wars, when major is with adversaries who were frankly all medium powers (IRAQ tier). Then in 00s-10s it shifted to 1 "major" war, 1 holding war, i.e. actively fight 1 major war, fix another major war in place so resources…
I think they now have 3 carrier groups out in the world at the same time. each of these is basically enough to best a foreign military excluding nukes.
Gulf war against 90s Iraq with 20m people and ~800 1960s missiles (scud Bs) required 5 carrier groups + regional air basing for air campaign, completely compromised Anti Air (by french who designed Iraq IADS and gave schematics to US). Relative to modern Iran with 80m people and 4x more missiles with 2000s rocketry tech, much more favourable geography (facing water), 1990s Iraq/Gulf War would not even measure up as a medium power / major war. One (1) carrier with 150/270 (short term surge) sorties per day is not remotely enough against a medium power. Can US surge 6-7 carriers + forward deploy air force with advanced notice to tackle Iran, yeah, but it wouldn't leave much left for anything else. CVN69 isn't exactly defeating the houthis right now. That's the numbers behind why US doctorine downgraded to 1 major war + 1 holding war (with medium/small adverary), while near/peer war with PRC is currently a toss up.
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
Suicides do not just happen due to being in extreme, incurable pain. People commit suicides due to emotions which seem powerful immediately(failure in love life, academics, career etc.) but would not seem as such a big deal if they were to look back on it afterwards either due to the passing of time or due to finding something else which made life worthwhile. This also is the problem with the autonomy argument - this…
Sometimes suicides are not due to emotions, but facts. Please do not assume emotionality or irrationality on the part of those who do it or consider it. Source: I am a man who has, and is, "falling through the cracks" as a child abuse victim with multiple disabilities, no hot job skills, and a marginalized identity. My life is slipping away and I'm almost 40. I am an extremely suboptimal individual as far as capitali…
My post was not meant to trivialize the problems you are facing or that there are easy fix solutions. Dont know how I can help as an anonymous stranger on the net, but just in case you want to talk to someone, you can always send an email.
FWIW, my point was that in many cases suicidal feelings can be relieved and the abuses (that you point correctly say exist already) can become more dangerous when directed towards getting rid of vulnerable people. But, that doesn't mean that chronic, hard-to-cure situations don't exist.
Best.
Re: Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide
#590This was a really well-written article. I think for years I had naturally thought that traumatic brain injury as a result of explosives basically caused the brain to rattle so hard that it smashed against the skull causing contusions, but apparently this is something different. The way it's explained in the article is that this is actually a result of the blast energy wave bouncing off of differently dense brain tiss…
I swear I’ve read about something similar happening to athletes in bobsledding due to the vibration of the brain.