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How can they speak of Safety when they are based partly in a colonialist settler entity that is committing a genocide and wanting to exterminate the indigenous population to make room for the Greater Zionist State. I don't do business with Israeli companies while Israel is engaged in mass Extermination of a human population they treat as dogs.
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If you genuinely believe your brain is just a token prediction machine, why do you continue to exist? You're just consuming limited food, water, fuel, etc for the sake of predicting tokens, like some kind of biological crypto miner.
Genetic and memetic/intellectual immortality, of course. Biologically there can be no other answer. We are here to spread and endure, there is no “why” or end-condition. If your response to there not being a big ending cinematic to life with a bearded old man and a church choir, or all your friends (and a penguin) clapping and congratulating you is that you should kill yourself immediately, that’s a you problem. Get…
For those who do believe they are simply fleshy token predictors, is there a moral reason that other (sentient) humans can't kill -9 them like a LLaMa3 process?
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There's a chance that these systems can actually out perform their training data and be better than the sum of their parts. New work out Harvard talks about this idea of "transcendence" https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.11741 While this is a new area, it would be naive to write this off as just science fiction.
"In chess" for AI papers == "in mice" for medical papers. Against lichess levels 1, 2, 5, which use a severely dumbed down Stockfish version. Of course it is possible that SSI has novel, unpublished ideas.
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There's a chance that these systems can actually out perform their training data and be better than the sum of their parts. New work out Harvard talks about this idea of "transcendence" https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.11741 While this is a new area, it would be naive to write this off as just science fiction.
"In chess" for AI papers == "in mice" for medical papers. Against lichess levels 1, 2, 5, which use a severely dumbed down Stockfish version. Of course it is possible that SSI has novel, unpublished ideas.
Not to be too pessimistic here, but why are we talking about things like this? I get that it’s a fun thing to think about, what we will do when a great artificial superintelligence is achieved and how we deal with it, feels like we’re living in a science fiction book. But, all we’ve achieved at this point is making a glorified token predicting machine trained on existing data (made by humans), not really being able t…
> this is such a transparent attention grab (and, by extension, money grab by being overvalued by investors and shareholders)
Ilya believes transformers can be enough to achieve superintelligence (if inefficiently). He is concerned that companies like OpenAI are going to succeed at doing it without investing in safety, and they're going to unleash a demon in the process.
I don't really believe either of those things. I find arguments that autoregressive approaches lack certain critical features [1] to be compelling. But if there's a bunch of investors caught up in the hype machine ready to dump money on your favorite pet concept, and you have a high visibility position in one of the companies at the front of the hype machine, wouldn't you want to accept that money to work relatively unconstrained on that problem?
My little pet idea is open source machines that take in veggies and rice and beans on one side and spit out hot healthy meals on the other side, as a form of mutual aid to offer payment optional meals in cities, like an automated form of the work the Sikhs do [2]. If someone wanted to pay me loads of money to do so, I'd have a lot to say about how revolutionary it is going to be.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHFUR-yD6I
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdoJroKUwu0
EDIT: To be clear I’m not saying it’s a fools errand. Current approaches to AI have economic value of some sort. Even if we don’t see AGI any time soon there’s money to be made. Ilya clearly knows a lot about how these systems are built. Seems worth going independent to try his own approach and maybe someone can turn a profit off this work even without AGI. Tho this is not without tradeoffs and reasonable people can disagree on the value of additional investment in this space.
Not to be too pessimistic here, but why are we talking about things like this? I get that it’s a fun thing to think about, what we will do when a great artificial superintelligence is achieved and how we deal with it, feels like we’re living in a science fiction book. But, all we’ve achieved at this point is making a glorified token predicting machine trained on existing data (made by humans), not really being able t…
It's no mystery, AI has attracted tons of grifters trying to cash out before the bubble pops, and investors aren't really good at filtering.
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Mind defining "likely" and "soon" here? Like 10% chance in 100 years, or 90% chance in 1 year? Not sure how a Go engine really applies. Do you consider cars superintelligent because they can move faster than any human?
I'm with you here, but it should be noted that while the combustion engine has augmented our day to day lives for the better and our society overall, it's actually a great example of a technology that has been used to enable the killing of 100s of millions of people by those exact types of shady institutions and individuals the commenter made reference to. You don't need something "super intelligent" to cause a ton o…
Not to be too pessimistic here, but why are we talking about things like this? I get that it’s a fun thing to think about, what we will do when a great artificial superintelligence is achieved and how we deal with it, feels like we’re living in a science fiction book. But, all we’ve achieved at this point is making a glorified token predicting machine trained on existing data (made by humans), not really being able t…
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> glorified token predicting machine trained on existing data (made by humans) sorry to disappoint, but human brain fits the same definition
It's a cute generalization but you do yourself a great disservice. It's somewhat difficult to argue given the medium we have here and it may be impossible to disprove but consider that in first 30 minutes of your post being highly visible on this thread no one had yet replied. Some may have acted in other ways.. had opinions.. voted it up/down. Some may have debated replying in jest or with a some related biblical ve…
If you made an LLM to pretend to have a specific personality (e.g. assume you are a religious person and you’re going to make a comment in this thread) rather than “generic catch-all LLM”, they can pretty much do that. Part of Reddit is just automated PR LLMs fighting each other, making comments and suggesting products or viewpoints, deciding on which comment to reply and etc. You just chain bunch of responses together with pre-determined questions like “given this complete thread, do you think it would look organic if we responded with a plug to a product to this comment?”.
It’s also not that hard to generate these type of “personalities”, since you can use a generic one to suggest you a new one that would be different from your other agents.
There are also Discord communities that share tips and tricks for making such automated interactions look more real.
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I’m a miserable cynic at a much higher level. This is top level grifting. And I’ve made a shit ton of money out of it. That’s as far as reality goes.
lol same. Are you selling yet?
I moved about 50% of my capital back into ETFs though before WWDC in case they dumped a turd on the table.