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OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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Look at Sam Altman's career and tweets. He's a clown at best, and at worst he's a manipulative crook who only cares about his own enrichment and uses pro-social ideas to give himself a veneer of trustworthiness.

the name OpenAI itself reminds me every day of this.

I knew their vision of open source AI wouldn't last but it surprised me how fast it was.

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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post #333

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That OpenAI are institutionally unethical. That such a young company can be become rotten so quickly can only be due to leadership instruction or leadership failure.

Look at Sam Altman's career and tweets. He's a clown at best, and at worst he's a manipulative crook who only cares about his own enrichment and uses pro-social ideas to give himself a veneer of trustworthiness.

I'm surprised at such a mean comment and lots of follow-ups with agreement. I don't know Sam personally, I've only heard him here and there online from before OpenAI days and all I got was a good impression. He seems smart and pretty humble. Apart from all openai drama which I don't know enough to have an opinion, past-openai he also seems to be talking with sense.

Since so many people took time to put him down there here can anybody provide some explanation to me? Preferably not just about how closed openai is, but specifically about Sam. He is in a pretty powerful position and maybe I'm missing some info.

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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post #333

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Look at Sam Altman's career and tweets. He's a clown at best, and at worst he's a manipulative crook who only cares about his own enrichment and uses pro-social ideas to give himself a veneer of trustworthiness.

Awfully familiar to the other South-African emerald mine inheritor tech mogul.

Are you saying that Altman has family that did business in South African emerald mines? I can't find info about this

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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I think they mean that you had to buy all the ones you wanted to keep.

That is tautological... You buy what you want to own???

There can be an advantage to not exercising: it causes a taxable event the IRS will want a cut of the difference between your exercise value and the current valuation, it requires you to commit real money to buy shares that may never be worth anything ....

And there are advantages to exercising: many (most?) companies take back unexercised shares a few weeks/months after you leave, it kicks in a CGT start date, so you can end up paying a lower CGT tax when you eventually sell

You need to understand all this stuff before you make a choice that's right for you

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

#585

It probably would be better to switch the link from the X post to the Vox article [0]. From the article: “““ It turns out there’s a very clear reason for [why no one who had once worked at OpenAI was talking]. I have seen the extremely restrictive off-boarding agreement that contains nondisclosure and non-disparagement provisions former OpenAI employees are subject to. It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, fr…

even if NDA were not a thing, revealing past company trade secrets publicly would render any of them unemployable.

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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So part of their compensation for working is equity, and when they leave thay have to sign an additional agreement in order to keep their previously earned compensation? How is this legal? Mine as well tell them they have to give all their money back too. What's the consideration for this contract?

I think we should have the exit agreement (if any) included and agreed to as part of the signing the employment contract.

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Want to share your model? Or is this more like a hunch?

Sounds like standard doomer crap tbh. I'm not sure which is more dangerous at this point - climate change denialism (it isn't happening) or climate change doomerism (we can't stop it, might as well give up)

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I’m not sure where you found your information to somehow form that ludicrous last strawman… Climate change is real, you can’t deny it, you can’t debate it. Simply look at the data. What you can debate is the cause… Again a sort of pointless debate if you look at the science. Not even climate change deniers as you call them are necessary saying that we shouldn’t do anything about it. Even big oil is looking into ways…

Of course climate change is real but of course we can do something about it. My point is denialism and defeatism lead to the same end point. Attack that statement directly if you want to change my mind.

I think your first sentence of the original post was putting people off; perhaps remove that and keep only the second...

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

#589

Sam and Mira. greedy as fuck since they are con artists and neither could get a job at that level anywhere legitimate. Now it’s a money grab. Sad because some amazing tech and people now getting corrupted into a toxic culture that didn’t have to be that way

> Sam and Mira. greedy as fuck since they are con artists and neither could get a job at that level anywhere legitimate. Hey hey hey! Sam founded a 4th most popular social networking site in 2005 called Loopt. Don't you forget that! (After that he joined YC and founded nothing ever since)

He’s spent all those years conducting field research for his stealth-mode social engineering startup.

Re: OpenAI departures: Why can’t former employees talk?

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Who is going to decide what are a worthy uses of our precious green energy sources?

An efficient market where externalities are priced in. We do not have that. The cost of energy is mis-priced, although we are limping our way to fixing that. Paying the likely fair cost for our goods, will probably kill a lot of current industries - while others which are currently viable, will become viable.

This 10x!!!
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