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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Why should subjective effects direct the scheduling of these drugs?

What should they be based on?

Actual harm, I think. I know that Ketamine has harm potential, but it's my impression that the physical harm only occurs with long term binge use, and that immediate physical harm due to overdose is unlikely. That the subjective effects during use are very powerful and overwhelming is not and should not be relevant, I think.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Will they? Since it will be Schedule III, “weed stores” that aren't pharmacies distributing properly labelled drugs to people with prescriptions will still be violating the Controlled Substances Act and will probably have the same banking problems.

I don't see how this anything but a mandate for the DEA to crack down on recreational.

I don't see how rescheduling to a less-restrictive category is a mandate to change the existing enforcement policy to a more restrictive one.

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"Also the idea of stoned people driving cars sounds scary. " Depends how stoned, but people routinely drive while using medication that affects them far more than being a bit stoned.

i think driving is probably already dangerous enough without adding cannabis or any other psychoactive into the mix

The culture around driving in the US is the problem. Many states will hand a license to pretty much anyone over 18 with nothing more than basic reading comprehension and eyesight required. Contrast this to say, the driving culture of Germany. There, everyone (not only minors) must undergo a rigorous training that is both broad and deep in scope. In addition to everything you'd expect, they also learn vehicle maintenance, basic first aid, performance driving skills (like the kind you'd pay to learn at a racetrack in the USA), and above all else, a deep respect and appreciation for the importance of following the rules of the road, leading to rigorous adherence to driving laws and etiquette that many Americans would find borderline anal-retentive.

However, the result is that I get to tell you fun facts such as the US interstate highway system having a higher rate of accidents and a higher rate of accident fatalities per vehicle-mile traveled than the Autobahn, in spite of the fact that hundreds of vehicles are hitting 180+ mph (300+ km/h) on a daily basis over there, while American highways mostly tend to be limited to 55/60/65/70/75 mph depending on state and road type.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Honestly, we should look to fix the issues that lead to people depending on weed, alcohol, and other drugs instead. These drugs are escapes for people - and a lot of them, especially younger kids get completely hooked on the escaped from reality from these drugs (including alcohol). We should instead be limit the use of these drugs and have teams dedicated to studying why people are turning to these instead. It's OK…

I know/knew a lot of people who smoke daily. It's honestly close to 50/50 where daily smokers excel and experience more than they would have without, and daily smokers who stagnate.

A lot of them naturally moved away from smoking when its purpose was served too.

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Great, let psychedelics be reclassified next

What we need is less drugs, and more fixing the issues on what causes people to turn to drugs.

Humans have been using drugs as long as we've been human. From caffeine to advanced hallucinogens.

I agree with the sentiment but it seems far more reasonable to stop criminalizing something so human as a step towards the goal, rather than put the goal before the metaphorical horse.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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That's a fairly a common practice for cash only businesses, normally a different company is supplying the ATM and its cash. For example I've seen cash only ice cream shops with the same setup.

That's not what he's describing. In this case there actually is no cash or traditional ATM involved on-site. It's connected to the dispensary POS, not a physical ATM. (They often have a regular ATM like you describe also, though.) So you do an ATM transaction, but the money goes to the dispensary somehow. I do not know how it works on the back end, but I've used it as a customer. It's lovely and can even be done over…

Isn't that how a traditional ATM transaction works? You use the ATM and the money goes to the ATM owner (plus a fee). The only difference here is you get weed instead of cash.

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The biggest problem is not the self-harm aspect but rather the social ramifications. Regulations and social expectations of where you can smoke should be as-strict as tobacco smoking, if not more since weed is just so much more stinky.

Stinky is very qualitative. Maybe you grew up around tobacco smokers and so don’t mind the smell? I hate it. Quantitatively, marijuana smoke is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke.

I hate both. Hence I said it should be as strict, if not more.
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