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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by selllikesybok »

ukuina wrote: post #413
selllikesybok wrote: post #231

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Question for you - > better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing How are you getting it to incorporate search results in its answers? I can't for the life of me get it to find any real-time external data except for the 5 official 'extensions' under settings, which are for Flights/Hotels/Maps/Workspace/YouTube. Did you mean that, or have you found a workaround to get Bard to actually search on G…

You have to click the "G" icon in its response to "verify answers with Google".

Okay, but to clarify:

- This is not Gemini performing a search. - This is Google providing a layer of ass-covering in case Gemini produces a factually incorrect reply.

Right? I am looking for something like ChatGPT with Bing - it will run a query, pull back results, and operate on them, all dynamically within the system.

Gemini doesn't seem to do this, no matter how you try to wrangle it.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by joquarky »

paulpan wrote: post #351
troupo wrote: post #312

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> There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you. Do they? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39302781

I think OP forgot the /s as I detected heavy dose of sarcasm. Arguably it's the reverse: if there was clear vision from the beginning, "Bard" would've never existed as a brand name.

Bard was a good name for an application that is verbose and makes stuff up.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by zooq_ai »

mvdtnz wrote: post #516
zooq_ai wrote: post #327

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Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…

Did you just say Microsoft doesn't have a popular email service?

Yes. No where at the scale and reach of gmail.

We are also talking about consumer emails (not enterprise / corporate)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by chaostheory »

bane wrote: post #582

Argh, Google can't seem to stick with anything. Is there a betting market where I can put money on how long it'll be before Gemini is dead or renamed?

Google’s marketing department needs to be reformed from the ground up. All this does is lead to confusion and further reinforces that Google will just change and throw away things simply to change or throw away things to cater to their broken internal promotion system.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by Zetobal »

chromeunagi wrote: post #573
Zetobal wrote: post #564

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And you can be sure it will reset with every update.

That's not how it works

They usually go for the "Software Bug nothing we could do." Microsoft and Meta are notorious for playing the system like that, with no recourse.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by maaanu »

jstummbillig wrote: post #546
DannyBee wrote: post #386

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so I have done a lot of transcripts, coding, one versus the other (gpt4 vs ultra). Often simple prompts like refactor this code or convert this python to typescript. My experience is that Gemini ultra understands the code better, but doesn’t always give me as complete of results (they seem to limit output length more) Beyond that it is very smart. I’ve had to tell me this code packs 12 bit integers into different par…

> That said, I have fed thousands of lines of code into both of them and asked them to refactor it, and neither one of them made more than one error. All code otherwise compiled and worked first try. I would be very interested to get a more detailed scope of what you did here. Feeding thousands of lines of code into GPT4 and getting a near perfect refactor does very much NOT sound like my experience, but it seems hig…

Yes, I've observed the same phenomenon. The more detailed my prompts are, the more errors GPT tends to make. I use it as a partner to discuss implementation ideas, before I start coding. That works very well, because gpt and I usually find somethings, that I missed at a first glance.

But coding with gpt or co-pilot is too disrupted for me.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by chaostheory »

_ea1k wrote: post #524
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

Any Google service with a chat-like feature is 100% guaranteed to have weird splits, joins, and renames like this. Don't worry, it will get worse.

It’s tied to their promotion system where maintenance obviously does not get rewarded, so to get promoted Googlers keep changing things in an effort to signal that they are releasing something “completely new”
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