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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by drewdevault »

trevyn wrote: post #567
drewdevault wrote: post #311

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You do not need to give anyone special permission to sell your contribution, everyone in the world is equally entitled to make commercial use of (including outright sale of) free and open source software; without this it is not free or open source. The only purpose of a CLA like this is to provide for a future where the software can be made non-free again.

No. A license to copyrighted code does not confer the same privileges as holding copyright to that code. Public domain is closer to “equally entitled”.

An open source license, by definition, entitles the recipient to commercial use.

https://xkcd.com/1731/

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by mrgoldenbrown »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #517
misternugget wrote: post #55

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I think that is on the roadmap too, but possibly further down.

You know Windows is the most common development platform? If it were me I'd prioritize it

The Zed team disagrees. Here is what they say in the github discussion on the issue: (https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/5394)

"We will let you know when windows support is under development. The Zed team isn't taking feedback on when we start on windows support, nor why we didn't start with windows.

The amount of people on each platform isn't relevant, as it starts with the base assumption that more people = better to the Zed team. Growth driven development unlikely to lead to a resilient, high quality product long term."

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by jhasse »

bryango wrote: post #381
misternugget wrote: post #15

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Hey! Engineer at Zed here. Linux port is on our roadmap. Hopefully we'll get it done this year!

Hey! Thank you for this cool editor! However, has it been written with cross-platform support in mind? Otherwise, porting from mac to linux could be rather painful and time-consuming... Will there be an ETA for us linux users? I saw it on the roadmap [0] but without an ETA. [0] https://zed.dev/roadmap

> However, has it been written with cross-platform support in mind?

Nope, it's using Apple's proprietary Metal API.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by agrippanux »

theappsecguy wrote: post #569
tiffanyh wrote: post #100

> GPL for the editor, AGPL for server-side components). GPUI, the UI framework that powers Zed, will be distributed under the Apache 2 license, so that you can use it to build high-performance desktop applications and distribute them under any license you choose Interesting choice on licenses. —- I’m been super happy with Zed, my main requests (and I’ve sent in this feedback to them or contributed to existing GitHub…

I literally tried it out for first time today and none of autocompletions worked for TS or Ruby. I hope they sort it out. I love jetbrains because it’s so feature rich and helps me a ton but god damn it’s slow.

This tripped me up as well, you need to set up the language servers in your settings json. There are examples in the Configuring Zed section of the Docs area on the site.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by jeremyjh »

gloosx wrote: post #551
jeremyjh wrote: post #523

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Why is another one of those needed? Personally I'm excited about the idea of a feature-rich editor that is still blazing fast.

It is not really needed, but this one is definitely here for the sake of announced commercial plans. Maybe it is faster than vscode, but it is still not fast enough like most of based terminal editors. I just made my benchmarks with 500MB of dev/urandom bytes to open on clean nvim and zed. Nvim opens it in 20 seconds while it takes 30 for zed, so I can say there is at least something inside the core engine which work…

The performance we're talking about here is not startup time, but responsiveness to keystrokes. Fast startup should also be a goal, but this is primarily an editor for doing development work with, and for me at least those kind of editors stay open all day (or more) for each project I'm working on. I use a very lean vim configuration for other use cases.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by thrwwycbr »

flexagoon wrote: post #248
Octoth0rpe wrote: post #51

I'm generally a big fan of zed and have been using it for 60%ish of my dev time for 6 months or so. A couple of nice things to note: - It really is remarkably responsive,and makes one really notice how UNresponsive everything else is. I have reasonably fast machines, so we're not talking about the difference between 5ms typing lag and 500ms, but it's still pretty surprising. VSCode never felt slow on my macs until I…

> older editors that are doing syntax highlighting via regex. I mean, Emacs, which can probably be considered the oldest code editor at this point, got built-in tree-sitter (which is what Zed uses under the hood) support in the last release. So it's not really related to editors being new or old

It's ironic that you say that, even though the people building zed were the ones building the tree sitter in the first place.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by mortallywounded »

I'm really happy the Atom team is back with another editor and atoning for the sin of creating Electron.

I'm glad Zed exists and hope it succeeds. I'm rooting for the team and hope they can put Microsoft's editor down the way Microsoft put Atom down.

With that being said-- I won't be using it. I've been using Vim for ~15 years and I've tried every editor and IDE under the sun. I just can't use anything else.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by safouen »

Aeolun wrote: post #341
Draiken wrote: post #295

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Mostly for SV startup folks. In other words: Apple fanboys. Jokes aside, the US is notoriously dominated by Apple, but it's not the same worldwide.

The dev profession is notoriously dominated by Apple. It’s weird to say that something that’s only for Mac is not for developers.

if you're a developer and dependent on mac you're probably building "the next big saas" in "the next big tech company" which will fail in few years.

a developer tool should be available on ALL platforms and specially Linux, if a tool is not available in linux no one will adapt it no matter how shiny it is.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by safouen »

jamil7 wrote: post #258
safouen wrote: post #21

i've heared about Zed for a long time and it seems promising but as long as it's not on windows/linux it's not for developers.

Ah yes windows, the classic developer OS.

"Ah yes Linux , the classic developer os" it's not available on WINDOWS and on LINUX. which is like THE MOST USED PLATFORMS ON THE PLANET. You apple fanboys try to find excuses for everyone

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by PH95VuimJjqBqy »

jitl wrote: post #340
benreesman wrote: post #326

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I’m really picky about my tools in general and latency in particular, and I give Zed a spin from time to time, it’s sweet. Clean, minimal design aesthetic, tree-sitter, tight code, it’s a nice bit of work and I dig it a lot. But emacs 29 with the right flags and a tuned GC (no one does this! it’s got a heap-size from the 80s!) is just as snappy and has more amazing packages than VSCode. There’s a market for people wh…

How do you get a reasonably fancy Emacs to start up/open files quickly? Every time I try to get into EMacs after adding a few packages it becomes painfully slow to open a file for editing. Then I try to understand Emacs server, then I fail / give up and go back to vim.

yeah, I can't deal with the emacs startup.

I mean, it's not slow per se, but compared to vim it's noticeably slower so I can't deal with it.

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