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Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by switch007 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #395
switch007 wrote: post #293

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They never seem to have enough small cars in Europe. I'm fed up of being 'upgraded' to a crossover/SUV. I think it's worse with eg Enterprise because their fleet tends to reflect what people own, because they do so much crash/repairs business. But it happens with most of them

Which country? Had no issues getting small cars in France. Got a Fiat500 last time in France on Hertz. I suspect French rental cos like to "upgrade" the 1-way rentals to get rid of them due to unpopularity. Only time I got upgraded to an SUV (2-lane wide Jeep Compass) in France was on a 1-way.

UK mostly. And Spain, but it's been about a year since I rented there so maybe it's changed. Italy too. I've never rented in France

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Post by multjoy »

brnt wrote: post #554
b112 wrote: post #520

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Which is why h2 is the answer. h2 that is shown to work, regardless of all the hyperbole and reckless claims battery fans make.

Storage of H2 is a challenge in space and weight constrained devices such as cars. Plus, any well to wheels analysis shows H2 coming up behind the alternatives in efficiency. There aren't claims, these are physical constraints. For heavy vehicles such as trucks and busses (and trains) there might be a market, provided the H2 is an otherwise unused byproduct of some process and needn't be produced, but for the majorit…

We had a hydrogen powered Toyota in our fleet for a while and it was great, but we were also down the road from the National Physics Laboratory at Teddington where they had a hydrogen filling station…

Re: Hertz to sell 20k EVs in shift back to gas-powered cars

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Post by petre »

brnt wrote: post #580
petre wrote: post #579

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It only works with Teslas, forget the other ones. That's part of why the others have failed to deliver a useful EV: only Tesla has a reliable charging network. The others are reliant on half assed solutions made by third parties.

Im in Europe, so that doesnt matter. And even if they had then here top, they'd be useless to me, because Teslas are too large for me.

Which part of Europe? See the map. If it's SE Europe, Cyprus or the Baltics, you are basically screwed. Western, Central and Northrn Europe (the populated areas) not so much.

https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/findus

Model 3 is a normal sized compact car, but if you live in Italy or on an island, it could be too big.

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Post by globular-toast »

dcchambers wrote: post #453

Im bullish on EVs but I feel like rental cars are one of the worst places for the current generation of EVs. EVs are best for the types of driving we do on a day-to-day basis. Short commutes in areas we know well. Charge at home over night and 95% of the year you never worry about charging. Renting a car means I'm usually either driving long distances or im somewhere new and I don't know about the local charging infr…

I drove an EV once as a courtesy car and something struck me immediately: EVs are electric wheelchairs.

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Post by mavhc »

umeshunni wrote: post #516
thatfrenchguy wrote: post #427

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Eh, you could just have used a Tesla Supercharger

Polestar 2s can't be charged at a supercharger, can they? At least they can't in the US.

Pretty much every EU EV uses CCS2, and certain Tesla Superchargers allow 3rd party access, there's about 50 in Italy according to their app

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Post by vegardx »

kccqzy wrote: post #574
vegardx wrote: post #558

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This is only true for somewhat old and obsolete Tesla superchargers, like V1 and V2. Since the introduction of Supercharger V3 they're all 400-1000V, so any car, with any internal voltage can charge at their rated speeds.

I believe you've mixed up the versions. That's only true for Supercharger V4, not V3. V3 did not support high voltages. V1 and V2 did not speak the CCS protocol so they were even more obsolete.

In Europe the V3 superchargers are 1000VDC, it's a big label of them that says so. Could it be that they're different in other regions?

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Post by nsteel »

brnt wrote: post #566
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #557

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It's solved because you just use Tedla super chargers and that's it.

These don't exist in Europe.

Rubbish.

> The stations are primarily deployed in three regions: Asia Pacific (over 2,000), North America (over 2,000), and Europe (over 1,000).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Supercharger

Some supercharger stations also work with other cars. I used them over Christmas with my Kia. Surprisingly they were faster and cheaper than anything else in the area.

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