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Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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NikkiA wrote: post #575
hintymad wrote: post #181

Toyota is amazing for making reliable cars but writing truly shitty code. IIRC, a lawsuit a few years ago about Toyota's faulty brake system revealed that Toyota engineers cramped tens of thousands of lines in a single file and the lines freely update hundreds of global variables. It's also interesting that Japanese companies follow ISO this and CMM that yet they develop slowly and produce shitty software services ev…

90% of embedded code is horrible global variable messes like that, it's truly horrifying if you value CS and SE sensibilities and get into embedded. Invariably you'll also be expected to interface to and utilitise someone else's code of that style, so you can't even try to make much of a positive impact from within.

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by dghlsakjg »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #527
kyrra wrote: post #522

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I think you miss my point. When CAFE standards drastically increase the price of small cars, it impacts choice. It's similar to house prices. The more regulations you pile on, the more things cost. While those things are seen as "good", it removes choice and increases cost.

I understand what you are saying, but I predict removing or fixing those regulations will not change anything (other than increased fuel or weight taxes), because the underlying reason remains the same. People (in general) prefer sitting higher up and being in bigger vehicles.

I don’t. I would gladly purchase a small practical brand new kei car if I could.

Given the choice between a $35k sedan and a $40k SUV the choice is going to be SUV for most people.

Given the choice between a $15k sedan and a $40k SUV, it gets a lot more interesting.

The US car market is incredibly restricted. You can buy a 300 mile range electric sedan for $25k in China. Why the fuck can’t we get that in North America?

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by elsonrodriguez »

nonethewiser wrote: post #12

Lexus is toyota. Accura is honda. So it’s really like: 1. Toyota 2. Mini 3. Honda 4. Subaru 5. Mazda Congratulations Japan.

It's absolutely incredible how Subaru can be so high on this list with their choice of engine style and transmission.

With that sort of handicap it's either a testament to how great Subaru is or how terrible every other automaker is.

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Post by pockybum522 »

vondur wrote: post #453
yaomtc wrote: post #231

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> car safety has drastically improved Safety between cars, and within cars, has improved. However, due to the increasing size of the average vehicle on the road, among other factors, car safety for pedestrians/cyclists has decreased. https://www.npr.org/2023/06/26/1184034017/us-pedestrian-deat...

People drive horrible now. Running lights, crazy lane changes, excessive speeding etc. Here in the US is started during the pandemic and hasn’t improved.

Started during the pandemic? My friend, I think you just might not remember how terribly people drove pre-pandemic as well.

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Post by nickpeterson »

mkii wrote: post #553
nickpeterson wrote: post #471

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I feel like China could really gain by taking a page or two from this playbook.

Not arguing against your point, but there's an active element in America media that's very anti-Chinese. When's the last time you saw a story that was cool or innocent related to China in HN (because MSM's totally out of the question)?

The MSM had a far more negative view of Japan not too many years ago.

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Post by dublinben »

riku_iki wrote: post #558
bastawhiz wrote: post #548

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I'm genuinely curious how that would be true. Doesn't a hybrid have ~all of the parts of an ICE vehicle and ~all of the parts of an EV? Wouldn't that mean it can fail in far more ways?

I am not expert at all, but my belief before this discussion was that hybrid is: - ICE, which charges battery in stable cycle - E-motor do all torque So, you don't need transmission, and ICE has way less stress, plus regenerative breaks puts way less mechanical stress on the system

What you’re describing would be an EV with a range extender, like the BMW i3.

Hybrid vehicles have a transmission to drive the wheels from both ICE and electric.

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Post by iammiles »

calamari4065 wrote: post #416

I've had a regrettably excellent experience with my 2015 Mazda. Easily the most reliable machine I've owned. Which is unfortunate because it's a soulless, joyless shitbox and I hate it. It just starts every single time, but it's not fun to drive. I see dozens of the exact same model on the road every day and they're all boring. The interior is fine, the handling is pretty good, the power is fine, fuel economy is fine…

Sounds a lot like my 2013 Subaru Forester. I often fantasize about getting a newer car but then I remember my car is paid off and has never let me down. It doesn't deserve me.

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Post by Galacta7 »

jmyeet wrote: post #217

You should be asking "What do terrorists and militants use?". Seriously. Look anywhere at any established militant or terrorist group and you'll see common tools. Some examples spring to mind: 1. Toyota Hilux trucks. Interestingly, for a combination of legislative reasons, you can't buy these in the US; But they are incredibly reliable. 2. AK-47 rifles. These are perhaps one of the most influential weapon systems in…

Top Gear once tried to intentionally kill a Toyota Hilux, ramming it, parking it in the sea, dropping a trailer on it, and literally setting it on fire. Nothing worked. It still drove.

I'm convinced that whatever remains of the charred Earth after WW3, somebody will still be driving a Hilux.

https://youtu.be/xnWKz7Cthkk?si=wE7S-iFl2yxIxQ-O

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Post by m463 »

sharkweek wrote: post #213

My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…

The only argument I can find against old pickup trucks would be lack of safety equipment.

even with expensive gas.

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