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OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Put the pieces together: Nov 6 - OpenAI devday, with new features of build-your-own ChatGPT and more Nov 9 - Microsoft cuts employees off from ChatGPT due to "security concerns" [0] Nov 9 - OpenAI experiences severe downtime the company attributes to a "DDoS" (not the correct term for 'excess usage') [3] Nov 15 - OpenAI announce no new ChatGPT plus upgrades [1] but still allow regular signups (and still do) Nov 17 -…

My bet - security issue involving data loss, but the data loss was the GPT model itself.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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post #473

- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…

Tbh surprised some of the personal stuff hasn't come to light. Nothing horrendous, but enough to push him out of any CEO role.

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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Not directly related to the issue, but a lot of comments here seem to be under an impression that OpenAI is a company.

It is not, is a Non-Profit foundation. It can't pay profits for shareholders, usually board members don't get billionaires.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Allow me to put my conspiracy hat on: Microsoft has an open “embrace, extend, extinguish” policy since forever. ChatGPT integration into Microsoft has been a huge win for them. Maybe they cleverly figured out a way to guarantee openAI would go bankrupt and know they’d eventually end up with the models due to clever contracts and legal wizardry, and now this ship is about to sink and sama new about this but couldn’t do anything to avoid it?

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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There's a prediction market here about why he was fired: https://manifold.markets/sophiawisdom/why-was-sam-altman-fir...

That's interesting. More like a prediction market about whatever becomes publicly told as the reason why he was fired. If e.g. this was military-related, it's unlikely it would be publicly known, so betting on "Military" is almost pointless

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#589

Not directly related to the issue, but a lot of comments here seem to be under an impression that OpenAI is a company. It is not, is a Non-Profit foundation. It can't pay profits for shareholders, usually board members don't get billionaires.

OpenAI is two entities, one nonprofit and the other for-profit, that are owned by the same umbrella company.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#590
The simplest solution is often the best. In this case, Sam did something that was so dramatically bad resulting in a high level of legal peril, which created an existential risk for OpenAI and Microsoft, or something in his personal life came to light that was beyond the pale. I love the AGI theories but in all likelihood it’s probably a boring thing: he made a terrible choice in his life somewhere and it’s caught up to him, with major consequences.
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