I'd like to know if the Pi 4 will still be manufactured. It's good enough for my projects and I'm not liking the extra cooling that sounds like will be needed.
Raspberry Pi 5
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5
#582Hey, I'm not really savvy with hardware. I wanted to use a pi4 to be my home TV controller to stream content to a TV or projector. A long time ago I saw this appear: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26495719 And it seemed to sort of work but not quite enough. There were stutters in the content streamed and strange clicks in the audio. Will this new one be enough? Was that even the likely limiting factor?
In my experience my Raspberry Pi 3, running Kodi, was able to keep up with a 720p MPEG2 stream as long as I had no network hiccups. Not sure what file format your Raspberry Pi is trying to transcode from though.
I very much want to just run through a familiar browser interface with a mouse and keyboard and use netflix and sflix and what not.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5
#583Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point here is likely to pull the rug out from under scalpers' feet. With the Raspberry Pi 5 out in two weeks, all the held-back inventory of older models will be dumped, prices will plummet, availability will become a non-issue. In that sense it's a wise move.
On a similar note, I'm genuinely curious as to why Pi chose the "authorized reseller" model instead of selling them directly.
B2C, small quantity sales are not fun. B2B selling pallets full.
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#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, keep in mind that the Pi5 is a $60 device with ~$60+ of support hardware (Power supply, cable, miniHDMI to HDMI, Cooling, Case, Storage) You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Also, you are reducing eWaste.
> You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable What suggestions do you have for this? I’m sure some people can find these, but every time I see comments like these (or ones that actually give specifics), it’s always used ones on eBay that aren’t actually better and are in unknown condition. I’m not doubting that some people come out ahead, but for…
The used on ebay is the actual upside. The issue is that most people do not need the size of a Pi and using used hardware is reducing eWaste. That said, my personal grab was an Acer refurbished Acer XC-830 J4125 for $89.
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#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't love that you'll have to choose between PoE, M.2, or active cooling / a case.
You won't have to. They can all be stacked.
Also looks like PCIe is exposed via an FPC connector. You could probably come up with a scheme to have an M2 device mounted behind the board - if you really wanted.
Only having a single lane of PCIe 2.0 is a little unfortunate. I wonder if the inevitable compute module will get more or not. It seems that their IO chip is also attached via PCIe but it provides a lot of the interfaces that you’d expect to have - so my hunch is that it’ll be included on any CM5.
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#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same as the people on Reddit claiming that Raspberry Pi has killed itself as a business because it's constantly in such high demand that it's always sold out.
They're claiming that they've killed themselves as a business hobbyists, which isn't exactly wrong. During their supply chain issues they made it clear they were prioritizing their commercial customers over the hobbyist market. At this point the hobbyist community has moved on to other things (shout out to odroids). I don't think raspberry pi is going anywhere, but they do have a very different market and customer ba…
> At this point the hobbyist community has moved on to other things (shout out to odroids).
Some small fraction of one percent of "the hobbyist community" has done as you've suggested. You're in some kind of odroid bubble.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5
#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't love that you'll have to choose between PoE, M.2, or active cooling / a case.
You won't have to. They can all be stacked.
Then surely there must be competition or a record for “tallest ever,” hopefully requiring each layer to be functional.
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#588Damn, I was hoping the old PoE hats would continue to work with this one.
Looks like the PoE pins have moved around. Another 20+ USD on top of the board cost...
Kinda disappointing, but the upgraded SD speeds will be nice.
Was also hoping they'd boost the core count or memory for some models, I know it's kinda against their targeted group, but would have been nice to have the options
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's completely acceptable so long that a legacy compatible "Pi SE" options would be available, in Pi 3 and Pi 4 form factors. Raspberry Pi are used installed as components into third party engineered products, and Raspberry Pi brand holds no value to potential industrial customers if new products did not technologically exchange with existing such products. That is to say the exact mounting details, electric…
Check out the “obsolescence statement” on the Raspberry Pi product pages. The 3B+ will remain in production until at least 2028 https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-... and the 4 until at least 2031 https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/...
Remain in production could mean like the nano 2 W which is manufactured in such small numbers it’s never in stock.
Re: Raspberry Pi 5
#590I somehow feel RPi5 is getting out of my "small fanless SBC" comfort zone, for embedded projects and products, RPi4 is more than enough for my needs, though I like its RTC and power button.