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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by zpeti »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Here's why this is an uphill battle, which no-one seems to understand. Everyone who actively participates in twitter, and even has a modest following, is tied to twitter.

You cannot move a 100k followers from twitter to thread. All the influential people HAVE to keep using twitter to serve their followers. Even if they build a following on thread, it will take years to build what they have on twitter.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by timeon »

neximo64 wrote: post #567
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Until someone like your parents use it casually they have no shot. BlueSky and Mastadon quite sorry to say have no shot. Your kind of opinion is clearly from someone who lives in a bubble or inexperienced.

I though 'parents' were more like Facebook category. What I think holds Twitter in position are news and public orgs.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by willhackett »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I'm not sure I'm actually going to use Threads. My Instagram and Twitter worlds are wildly different, and by using Instagram for login I'm reluctant to conflate the two.

This just seems like they want another vertical to vacuum user data and cram advertising.

I'm not against it, I'd just rather it was its own platform.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by awill »

afavour wrote: post #234
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

>>I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great

Twitter/Elon no longer know what made Twitter great.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by pferde »

neximo64 wrote: post #567
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Until someone like your parents use it casually they have no shot. BlueSky and Mastadon quite sorry to say have no shot. Your kind of opinion is clearly from someone who lives in a bubble or inexperienced.

Arguably, Mastodon does not even want that shot. They've been perfectly happy even without last year's big influx of ex-twits.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by pferde »

skiman10 wrote: post #232
delecti wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I think this succeeds or fails based on the ability to follow different kinds of things from users separately. If I can follow someone's Threads and not their Reels, I'd be glad to have such an easy migration path off of Twitter (I'm having a lot of fun on bluesky, but it's not ready). I'm not optimistic about that though, because you already can't choose to not follow reels separately from pictures.

I never got a Bluesky invite and I've seen a couple comments mentioning "it's not ready" so I'm wondering why people keep saying that? It has been in development for a while, so I would assume it is ready at this point in time.

Apparently, (at least some) content creators like it better than Mastodon already. See https://drewdevault.com/2023/06/30/Social-and-parasocial-med...

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by zuminator »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #231
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Agreed. When Instagram added stories, my entire Snapchat friendlist disappeared within a month and they were all posting to Instagram instead. I think the same will happen here. But it will be lopsided toward people who are already more popular on Instagram than they are on Twitter, which is a lot of social/non-professional audiences. I expect that Twitter accounts with large followings will continue posting there, a…

> I expect that Twitter accounts with large followings will continue posting there, and Twitter will continue to dominate the professional niches (coding twitter, medical twitter etc.)

Coding maybe, but I think Musk's perceived hostility towards the trans community is going to drive medical and educational Twitter to the first viable alternative, and they will serve as catalysts to peel off other professional groups.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by timeon »

vineyardmike wrote: post #200
keyle wrote: post #189

Wait, where is the web version? A big part of twitter is the web client... and embedded tweets all over the internet. Did they start this product by cloning instagram and removing the image centric approach? Why is this not a website first? My gut feel is that this competes as much with instagram as it does with Twitter.

Instagram has a web version, and the ability to HTML embed instagram posts, so it seems likely that this will have a web version.

At least one can see some content on Instagram web while not logged in. If Tweet is no embedded one is out of luck.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by menshiki »

ducharmdev wrote: post #250
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #87

Oh, wait, this feels like the start of a cyberpunk story. If TikTok gets banned, where to the users go? Instagram. Threads could replace Twitter. Reddit is going downhill... Maybe Meta could even buy it in a firesale? Outside of chat apps like Discord, Slack, Teams and Telegram (which compete with WhatsApp), Meta will have consolidated most of the world's social media under them. And that's assuming they dont buy out…

The beginnings of a western WeChat?

Meta does not have the support of legislators. The EU would regulate any service that would even aspire to become a Western WeChat way before they have any chance to succeed.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by TeMPOraL »

thrashh wrote: post #437
gochi wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

I don’t think Meta even needs to care about the valuable aspects of Twitter. If everyone on Twitter jumps ship to Meta, Meta will own even more social media and there’s no way that isn’t a win.

Might get big enough for antitrust.
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