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Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #450

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I'm in doubt if is ethical journalism reveal the name and LinkedIn profile of an alleged killer, sounds like doxing to me.

Arrests sure better be public record in a free country.

There's also presumption of innocence so publishing personal info of someone not convicted is akin to doxxing to me.

Edit: typos.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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Being out at 230am, when you're a husband and father, do imply you've succumb a bit to the nature of the city IMO.

> being out at 230am, when you're a husband and father Being out late shouldn’t be, and isn’t for most people, a life-and-death decision.

It definitely shouldn't be if we lived in a perfect world. But stats prove otherwise.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #536

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Which other stabbings are you referring to?

Ah, apparently it was a strangulation rather than a stabbing! I'll refrain from repeating the accused's name here because I see now that the charges were dropped -- but it was on HN before and left an impression on me: maybe I'm old fashioned but I usually expect the number of assaults, attempted murders, or murders connected with a project team to be zero.

Could you link to the story without naming the accused? I find that curious as well.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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> This is a good reminder of how we gravitate towards powerful emotional narratives, which in the moment can feel absolutely true despite an utter lack of supporting facts on an individual murder case. It seems equally weird to me that so many people are taking this anecdote as a sort of proof that San Francisco does not have a crime problem. Focusing on individual anecdotes and swinging from one conclusion to anothe…

Every major city has a crime problem and always has. The question is whether the situation is being blown out of proportion by sensationalist media or people with axes to grind. For a group that claims to be so rational, much of the HN crowd commenting here does seem to be averse to relying upon actual data.

Every major (and minor) city has crime. Not a crime problem. A crime problem means the rate is too high for the population size.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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> This is a good reminder of how we gravitate towards powerful emotional narratives, which in the moment can feel absolutely true despite an utter lack of supporting facts on an individual murder case. It seems equally weird to me that so many people are taking this anecdote as a sort of proof that San Francisco does not have a crime problem. Focusing on individual anecdotes and swinging from one conclusion to anothe…

Every major city has a crime problem and always has. The question is whether the situation is being blown out of proportion by sensationalist media or people with axes to grind. For a group that claims to be so rational, much of the HN crowd commenting here does seem to be averse to relying upon actual data.

Not every city has the same crime problems. Stealing in Tokyo will get you thrown out of the country. Stealing in SF is acceptable and will get you praise.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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Is the "Expand IT, Inc" on the LinkedIn profile the only evidence that the "alleged killer also works in tech and is a man Lee purportedly knew." There's comments is this thread of amazing journalism but the LLC shows as inactive on the Division of CA website (entity 201008110204) and the Expand IT website itself is dead. For all we know, this is a Lyft or Uber driver. Unless I'm missing some SFPD statement known to…

Two quick things:

First, you apparently missed this paragraph:

Rather, Lee and Momeni were portrayed by police as being familiar with one another. In the wee hours of April 4, they were purportedly driving together through downtown San Francisco in a car registered to the suspect.

Doesn't sound to me like the reporter is just speculating based on the LinkedIn profile.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure you have the wrong filing. The LinkedIn profile says "Inc", not "LLC", so I think it's probably file #4776106, which is still active, and registered with an address in Emeryville, which is where police were headed to arrest Momeni.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #549

Is the "Expand IT, Inc" on the LinkedIn profile the only evidence that the "alleged killer also works in tech and is a man Lee purportedly knew." There's comments is this thread of amazing journalism but the LLC shows as inactive on the Division of CA website (entity 201008110204) and the Expand IT website itself is dead. For all we know, this is a Lyft or Uber driver. Unless I'm missing some SFPD statement known to…

It’s pretty obviously not. The answers are in the article. The police claims they were driving together. You don’t usually drive together with someone you don’t know late at night.

I mean Uber?

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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The linked article specifically shows that violent crime in SF is at an all time low, and lower than most other comparably sized cities.

Didn't SF used to be freaking scary prior to blowing up? I've heard people talk about it like they do Miami, Baltimore, Detroit, ect. An undesirable place that washed up people ended up, riddled with crime and violence. I think I might be getting the story wrong, but I recall hearing there used to be much more crime.

I never thought the issue was violent crime. More like the constant low-level theft and public urination from the homeless, drug addicts, and mentally ill.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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When I moved to SF in 1996, the murder count that year was 86. Last year it was 56. I haven't been back in a very long time, but I guarantee you it's a far safer city than it was back then. I lived on Market between 6th and 7th and had knives pulled on me, and watched a car get blown up across the street underneath Hollywood Billiards, which is long gone now - according to Google Maps, they're building new apartments…

"The loin changed me far more than my presence changed it - for the better. It taught me compassion and empathy and how to avoid getting knifed by a junkie in the alleyway." I 100% agree. I lived 5 blocks uphill from the Tenderloin and would walk though the loin to go to Bourbon & Branch or while coming back from the theater late at night. I learned all three of those lessons as well. It was rare that I was scared bu…

How safe you are mostly depends on your gender, size and frankly race. If you are a tall male your experience is simply not comparable to someone that is less able to fend off a physical confrontation.

Its great nothing traumatic happened to you, but I’ve seen how much more of a target for harassment some of my friends are and I don’t blame them for being afraid.

Re: Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

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post #323

Am I the only one who does NOT feel unsafe in SF at all ? I mean, I choose not to walk in TL and SOMA at night. But why would anyone feel unsafe in North Beach, Marina, Russian Hill, Richmond, Sunset, GG park, Lower Haight, Valencia etc. I have spent many nights walking in Valencia and took Uber home at 2am. Doesn't feel remotely unsafe.

I've lived in SF for almost 30 years. I agree 100%. Sure, there's a lot more sad/ugly homelessness in the post-covid era. The shantytowns out by Candlestick are depressing. The Tenderloin continues to be a mess.

But do I feel less safe? Absolutely not! The neighborhoods (where most people live) are just fine. I regularly walk home from the bars at midnight without a care. It's simply not a problem.

Compare back to the mid-90's, when there was active gun/gang violence in the Mission corridor ... quite frankly, I feel far safer today than I used to.

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