Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is still a very livable city.
Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#582Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…
Anecdata: My friend who lives around Alamo square has had her car windows smashed 3 times, all her tires stolen off her car once, and had someone come into her garage knock her down and steal her phone.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#583I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
Or, let’s decentralize the center of the tech universe so that everyone can prosper and we don’t fall into this trap again.
Or centralize it in the Midwest and put it next to the work that enables us to eat and use diesel to make consumable calories. Columbus, Des Moines, Oklahoma City. This is the way.
I fixed this in response to Green Man's comment.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#584Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…
Two factors: a) They cut officers and drive them away. They had 2,160 officers and needed them. They are down to 1,651 officers (Sept 2022) Source: abc7news.com b) The San Francisco DA allows many arrested to allowed to go free. They elected a special DA to allow people to go free. Not for all crimes, but many. This emboldens people because they see so many people released without trial or sentencing for their crimes…
> The number of murders is very sad to see increased to such high levels.
Why just make things up? The absolute number of murders is basically flat over the last decade and per-capita it's decreased[1].
[0] https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rat...
[1] https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-San-Francisco-Californ...
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#585Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is stil…
You can not totally avoid the other side even if you are able to spend your way into the nice part.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#586Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…
There are a few unrelated problems: - Sf closed schools for one year and half during the COVID causing large number of families to move out. And these are people who are contrablance to ultra liberals. - Housing crisis: Corruption within the city's permit process has resulted in the need to hire "accelerators," which exacerbates the housing crisis. - Public education: The public school system is facing significant di…
I think you forgot to add 2:
- Drug Crisis: Fentanyl crisis which is a US-made drug, widely accessible, and is affecting all America, exacerbating the homeless problem.
- SFO subsidizing addiction: On average $336 in grants given to homeless [2], many of whom are addicts, plus policies that allow crime for retail goods that are then fenced to support addiction. County Adult Assistance Programs (CAAP): Eligible San Franciscans can receive up to $687 a month from CAAP as well as a wide range of additional services and assistance. CalFresh (Food Stamps): All individuals who meet certain income requirements can receive up to $250 monthly for food assistance.
i'd add 2 citations under " Homelessness [1] "
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/books/review/san-fransick...
[2] According to the San Francisco Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing, as of 2021, the average amount of General Assistance (GA) provided to individuals experiencing homelessness in San Francisco was $336 per month.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#587Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…
There's 100s of different hypothesis for the cause, but it's all just a different flavor of wealth inequality. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. This promotes all types of corruption. The rich can usually avoid the stench and filth of the poor so they don't invest their money in solving it. Now the poorness is festering. This is a problem that will not get solved without taxes, and it proba…
This problem was created by liberal policies, in typical liberal fashion, the only way to solve the problem is _even more_ liberal policies?
Despite having control of every layer of government they still somehow are blaming someone else.
San Francisco wasn't always like this.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#588Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…
It's misleading to lump violent crime and property crime together. SF is skewed very heavily towards property crime. This stabbing incident is a rare event, and broken auto glass is common. They're not the same.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#589I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
Ya let's move the tech industry and ruin the next place, Austin.
There's this brewing sentiment in the rest of the US as California residents move out: please go away and keep your broken politics and social policies away from us.
I have family out in Idaho, and they complain that there a lot of folks from California moving there and screwing up the local politics by voting for policies that broke the state of California. They joke that the first thing people do is change their plates because they don't want anyone to know they're from Cali. I can't blame them, though, because it is an absolute train-wreck of a state whose condition is epitomized by SanFran.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#590Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…
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