What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

Post by psychphysic » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 12:19 PM UTC

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Obesity is something else than median ( = control group) living. Sport is good for you. Extreme sports markedly cuts short average life expectancy and late quality of life. With your logic, that makes sports bad. Edit: actually, I guess it depends on where you live. In America, obesity probably is the median..

I'm not trying to invent some new science here. Just what I've read in journals.[0] There is this weird defense of obesity and being sedentary in western culture it's just inexplicable. Interestingly we've just had the first case of manslaughter by obesity trial going on in the UK [1]. The mum has admitted manslaughter the dad is going to trial. Over death of their 16yo girl. [0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s4136…

Post by Archipelagia » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 1:29 PM UTC

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If you're in Europe – I'm signed with Tomorrow Biostasis ( https://www.tomorrow.bio ) and the pricing is not as bad as I expected when I initially started thinking about it.

Didnt look too much into it but my gut feeling based on the price says its too cheap to be able to keep the lights on for centuries. I would rather do a one time payment because they sure wont get money from me when i am dead. So a one time payment must basically be big enough to generate enough interest/stock market returns to make it worth their while too keep the lights on forever. I dont see this with a 50€ Subsc…

Post by benibela » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 4:00 PM UTC

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When Elon was asked why longetivity research didn't pick his interest as worthy of an investment, he said: >It is important for us to die because most of the time people don't change their mind, they just die. If you live forever, we might become a very ossified society where new ideas cannot succeed.

The opposite could also be true though. Longer lifespans permit more people gaining education, working more years, saving more money with a longer term vision, and rising to be a new economic upper class. Short lifespans make that a very difficult to coordinate multi generational project. There are also solutions like term limits, or generational tenure limits or something that could help reduce any negative effects…

Post by sangnoir » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:23 PM UTC

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Government budgets are finite: prioritization is not a fallacy but comes built-in, as anyone who has written a grant application knows. We have a whole host of societal functions that are not geared to cope with longevity: including social security plus the associated tax-rates

I don't follow your social security point; could you please explain? Thank you.

Post by Teever » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 7:15 PM UTC

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The state of the art in this field is removing a rabbit's kidney, vitrifying it, waiting a month or so, thawing it and implanting it. I haven't read this article but the abstract seems to confirm what I read a while ago.[0] Apparently the bottleneck is in thawing organs past a certain size, current thawing methods lead to uneven thawing in larger organs, however I read they were experimenting with using directed radi…

In the 1950s scientists were freezing small rodents and reanimating them using a primitive microwave. [0] If vitrifying and reviving a single rodent organ is the state-of-the-art 70 years later, I am not exactly impressed by their progress. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdiKTSdE9Y