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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Klinky »

operator-name wrote: post #361
jrmg wrote: post #270

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It is very clearly against the rules as written. They cover “…linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter…”

> We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. I think it would be classified as cross posting a newsworthy event.

"any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above" sounds like doublethink.

"Crossposting from prohibited sites is allowed."

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ceejayoz »

zmibes wrote: post #231
Chinjut wrote: post #206

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If he wishes to support free speech, as he so often claims, then yes, that carries that obligation. But he clearly does not actually care about free speech.

Any non-abserd definition of free speech concerns the expression of ideas rather than allowing hyperlinks to competitor platforms. I don't see this as a violation of free speech at all

You're bending over backwards so far you've become a Klein bottle.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by spikeagally »

Are they trying to drive users away? I was initially interested in what Musk might do to improve Twitter - I’ve since logged off, haven’t used it in a couple of weeks, and haven’t missed it one bit. No plans to return or even use an alternative. He talks about doing good for humanity, and if he drives people away from the tribalism of Twitter and tanks it, he may actually succeed at that goal!

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by warning26 »

fhd2 wrote: post #393
Deestan wrote: post #210

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> Wow. How will the free speech absolutists twist this as being pro free speech? Same as anything else. Any sequence of words that mimic a rational argument, with no concern for consistency with any previous stance or statement.

Sounds like it'd scale well with ChatGPT :P

Once again, ChatGPT does not disappoint:

> Write a comment in the style of a HackerNews comment, providing a detailed, logical argument explaining why blocking references to competition on social media is actually the best way to achieve free speech

Blocking references to competition on social media is actually the best way to achieve free speech because it allows for a more level playing field. When certain companies or individuals are constantly promoted and given a platform to speak, it can create a bias and give them an unfair advantage. By blocking references to competition, everyone has an equal opportunity to be heard and share their views.

Additionally, allowing references to competition can often lead to the spread of misinformation and propaganda. When one company or individual is constantly promoted, they may use their platform to spread false or misleading information in order to give themselves an edge. By blocking references to competition, we can help prevent the spread of misinformation and ensure that users are receiving accurate and reliable information.

Ultimately, the goal of free speech is to allow for the open exchange of ideas and opinions. By blocking references to competition on social media, we can create a more balanced and fair environment for this exchange to take place.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by [deleted] »

10729287 wrote: post #114
MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #27

Banning links to Facebook? Really? This flying by the seat of the pants moderation style reminds me of friends in highschool running their own phpBB instances and IRC channels.. Also, Telegram, Discord, Tumblr aren't listed? Lol.

Actually only links to profiles calling for follow. If I understand correctly.

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Shank »

haxiomic wrote: post #84

Let’s help people get off this ship Tools to migrate to mastodon: Archive your data and repost to mastodon: https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data https://github.com/FGRibreau/import-tweets-to-mastodon Find accounts you follow on mastodon: Browser Extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mastodon-handles-i... Using API - https://debirdify.pruvisto.org/ (thanks @guerrilla) - https://www.movetodon…

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by klabb3 »

bmarquez wrote: post #554
infinityio wrote: post #221

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To be fair - it looks like twitter is also banning links in bio here?

Since they're banning Linktree (which exists primarily for that purpose) it sounds like they are. I hate that Twitter is turning into a closed platform like Instagram.

To be fair, this started way before Elon. Yes you could link to individual posts but as soon as you read through the direct reply a soft paywall comes up. Your experience as signed out user was - and still is - awful.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by modeless »

wstuartcl wrote: post #560
modeless wrote: post #448

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Don't ascribe motivations to me without evidence. This is not a defense of Elon Musk. I think this policy is stupid. But our criticisms of it should be correct. Otherwise we're no better than our opponents.

I think it is pretty clear this is the case, I mean look at any post he has responded to with dislike in the last month -- every day there is a queue of disabled accounts that have interacted with musk or poked his thin skin. At the end of the day as far as i am concerned its a dead platform -- just the ad reductions against the 1bn + interest means the runway is on fire. Whatever elon does at this point is just pret…

I'm talking about this policy, not Musk. I think the policy is stupid and I think we should argue against it. "Musk won't follow the policy" is not a criticism of the policy. There's plenty of room here to criticize the policy on its own merits.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by yafbum »

est31 wrote: post #108

When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

It's not just network effects that saved GitHub. It's also that Microsoft didn't handle it like an insecure bully and visibly continued a commitment to its community. Had they not done that, certainly alternatives would've had a better go of picking up disillusioned GitHub users.

Twitter instituting a policy against cross promotion isn't going to save the public square. It's encouraging the rest of the ecosystem to retaliate or to escape.

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