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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by mayankkaizen »

FormerBandmate wrote: post #442
Aeolun wrote: post #280

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So in a way Elon taking over is good. At least it’s abundantly clear the whole platform is run based on his personal whims now.

Say what you want about his handling of Kanye, at the very least it was transparent as fuck. He practically livetweeted his whims

Some says he removed Kayne because Kayne posted Elon's unflattering pic in his last tweet.

Given Elon Musk handling of other tweets, I doubt he was being transparent. That swastika post just gave him an excuse to remove Kayne.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Dudelander »

hgfdhgdfhgdf wrote: post #573
Dudelander wrote: post #549

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Does it though? I don't think a campaign staff pointing out tweets that might violate the TOS counts as collusion. That's just a campaign interfacing with Twitter the same way everyone else does. If it was collusion, then every white house press briefing in history would be too. Which, sure, might be Chomsky's point of view, but I don't think anarchists need to be convinced that Joe Biden is bad.

Why aren't Taliban tweets removed that violate the TOS?

Stuff like that gets removed all the time. It's a meme that posting certain Islamic songs can get you banned on Twitter. They might not get them all, especially with a reduced moderation team, but tons of Islamic terrorist tweets are removed every day.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by hgfdhgdfhgdf »

fzeroracer wrote: post #151
Dig1t wrote: post #118

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https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

Did you bother looking over the content of those tweets? You can go to archive.org right now and see what was 'censored', but I recommend not doing so at work. Or you can look at my prior posts instead for an explanation. It should come at no surprise that high profile users of twitter (government, celebs etc) can make requests to have content that clearly violates the twitter ToS removed and are served with higher p…

Why aren't the Taliban banned? They used Twitter to take control of Afghanistan [1]

[1] https://ischool.umd.edu/news/how-taliban-used-twitter-to-tak...

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by jasonhansel »

mbreese wrote: post #466
Dem_Boys wrote: post #127

Most concerning thing here is that this proves political parties (including the white house[0]) have a direct line to Twitter[1] to get stuff they dislike removed. One would have to assume that there was also a direct line to other social medial platforms. It's so wild to have the slimy-ness of our American political system be revealed in yet another way. So in America you cannot say negative things about political l…

How is having a direct line to Twitter the most disconcerting thing for you? Of course they have a direct line. I expect that all major political parties, the white house, various legislative committees, etc... would all have a direct line to communicate with Twitter. It's explicitly said that both major parties had these lines of communication, so it's hard to see a problem with the existence of back-channel methods…

I would add:

(c) The lack of transparency around this process.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by RonaldRaygun »

freejazz wrote: post #237
jeffreyrogers wrote: post #115

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The part where they removed tweets because they were asked to or banned accounts because they were asked to is a pretty big deal. And even though everyone knew they did that it wasn't in writing. It's kind of like the Snowden leaks, everyone who thought about the issues involved had a basic idea of what was going on but until it was out in the open people could just deny it.

Taibbi doesn't even say any of that

But that's going to be the narrative. The actual reality doesn't matter, just like the endless gloating these days about the so-called "Russia hoax" - where there was a bunch of shady goings-on between the Trump campaign and the RU gov't who was quite explicit in their desire to work with and assist his campaign. But because it didn't achieve the nigh-impossible feat of a successful impeachment vote by his own party, they act as if the whole thing was a ridiculous put-on when in fact they'd be frothing at the mouth if it was Joe Biden and the CCP.

Narrative is the only thing that matters, especially to these folks, and unfortunately that's why our society is fucked. Because they are definitely going to win that battle. They're already claiming that Biden, as a private citizen, was an agent of the "deep state" violating the 1st amendment with his shadowy cabal and it's just going to go downhill from here.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by arthens »

tayo42 wrote: post #508
stefan_ wrote: post #343

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Oh, it's even better than that. Taibbi shows you emails of some DNC person reporting tweets, but neglects to show you the actual tweets in question: Chinese Spam Bots and revenge porn. Truly the smoking gun. The irony is the misdirection worked, people in this thread are frothing at their mouths unable to tell who even was in government in 2020.

how do you find what the removed tweets are?

The internet archive. I checked the first tweet in the screenshot myself and yep it was hunter's nudes.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by AYBABTME »

Waterluvian wrote: post #174
sidibe wrote: post #161

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The difference between the multiparty countries and the USA is that in the USA the compromises needed to form a government are made before you do the final vote. In some ways I think that's better because the parties have to have a fuller and more realistic platform than in Europe where you can get a bunch of parties in power only caring about a few issues each and the tradeoffs aren't presented upfront

I find it works amazingly well in Canada where there is commonly no one party in power. That any one party must get the support of one or more other parties to pass any bill. This creates mandatory compromise. During a majority government where a single party has enough votes, I generally agree with you.

FPTP caused the Liberal party to be in power in Canada for most governments until they were ejected from politics for gross corruption. And since then they've been put in the corner for a bit, and slowly are coming back to being the prevalent ruling party.

Justin Trudeau made a campaign promise a few elections ago about replacing FPTP for a multi turn system and after being elected, promptly setup a sham study, which unsurprisingly found out that Canadian voters would be oh so confused if FPTP was to be replaced by a multi turn election system.

I wouldn't say Canada fares much better, in the long term. At least the Liberals are pretty benign.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by dudeinjapan »

anoonmoose wrote: post #130
Dig1t wrote: post #118

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https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

1- Biden wasn't in government, he was running for office. Private citizen at the time. 2- They weren't telling, they were asking, and if Twitter feels like they were told, they can sue the government for violating their First Amendment rights.

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by culi »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #127

Most concerning thing here is that this proves political parties (including the white house[0]) have a direct line to Twitter[1] to get stuff they dislike removed. One would have to assume that there was also a direct line to other social medial platforms. It's so wild to have the slimy-ness of our American political system be revealed in yet another way. So in America you cannot say negative things about political l…

> Most concerning thing here is that this proves political parties (including the white house[0]) have a direct line to Twitter[1] to get stuff they dislike removed. One would have to assume that there was also a direct line to other social medial platforms

This is the historical norm not anything new. This is very true about Fox News, CNN, and especially all the other "old media" major (alphabet soup) networks

Speaking internationally, there's no stronger propaganda force than the US. Americans very often fail to acknowledge this when criticizing "foreign election meddlers" (which the US has BY FAR the longest and most egregious record of doing)

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by xdennis »

amatecha wrote: post #525

Seriously. Can people just make a blog post? Second long-ass Twitter thread today. > Don’t miss what’s happening > People on Twitter are the first to know. > [Log in] > [Sign up] Great way to share long essays /s

You may want to use the "Nitter Redirect" add-on. It redirects Twitter to Nitter which is a lot more readable.

E.g.: https://nitter.net/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

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