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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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I don't quite think it is luck - but a weird second thing. Musk has a reality distortion field. I think he is a bloviating jerk but I know a lot of really really smart and dedicated engineers in software and in more traditional fields like mech-e and aerospace who would rather work for Musk than any other person and are willing to take pay cuts to work for him. This means he really can surround himself with very skil…

So why is he able to get smart people around him? Its not like he pays them a lot or offer a good work/life balance in their job.

What would you rather have on your resume, Tesla or IBM?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#582

I'm likely to pay for it at that price. For reference, I have a bit more than 14K followers on Twitter. Why? Two reasons. 1) Funding social media through advertising has led to dysfunctional outcomes like outrage being more visible than high-quality content. I’m in favor of alternative revenue streams, although they have to provide value, and removing ads doesn't count as providing value. 2) My Twitter account is par…

What does a blue check get you anyway that you can't just have with a blue check emoji?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#583
I like this change, for it is radical. It's very hard to predict the outcome of it, so I'm above all interested in it as a social experiment.

For quite a few "check marks" it will feel as a massive downgrade. Not only are they no longer special, they even have to start paying to be less special.

Yet for many, they have nowhere to go. Their current status (followers) is often unique to Twitter and not easily replicated elsewhere. Many came to power by years of unhinged "hot takes", the check-mark, and algorithmic boosting. This tactic doesn't really work on any other social network, not by posting small and ridiculous pieces of text.

Some dare to even flip it and claim they should not be paying, they should get paid, for they are "creators". I consider that to be quite generous. Sure enough they generate activity/traffic, but that's not the same thing as creating.

On Youtube, you can find videos of incredible production value. Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saWNMPL5ygk

Now, that's a creator. Tweeting "Biden sucks" creates outrage, but is not a creation. Stephen King is a creator as a novel writer, but his tweets specifically are not creations of any value on their own.

The way I draw this line is simple: can the creation stand on its own and widely be perceived as having value? For the video I linked to, clearly yes. For a tweet, when you disassociate it from who said it...nah.

With "value", I mean value to us. Clearly a rage tweet generating a lot of traffic and ad impressions has value to Twitter, but in my book that doesn't make you a creator that needs to get paid.

Musk has hinted though that he wants to onboard long form content and native video, so that could change things.

Finally, other than this leveling of status, I hope obscene algorithmic boosting is also looked at. One is often puzzled to see a random idiot having hundreds of thousands followers whilst producing nothing but mediocre garbage. The ultimate example has to be this:

https://twitter.com/nytimes

No, I have nothing against that newspaper nor do I find them idiots. That account has over 50m followers yet near-zero engagement.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#584
post #571

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The people willing to pay, the heavy users, are also the people most engaged and posting content on the platform. Content that twitter needs for less heavy users to consume, bringing in eyeballs for advertisers. Continuing to show ads to paying content creators is double-dipping.

I doubt $8 will be the only option. I’d bet $1000 that there will be a $16 (or whatever the ROI bar is) tier to be completely ad free. $8 entry fee seems reasonable from a pyscological perspective. It sounds like the modern version of $9.99, since 3 numbers is taboo on the Twitter style internet and 8 sounds better than 9

They _should_ have the corp version. Corp accounts (@corp_name) should be like $1000/year or something like that (probably could charge $10,000 and more). Nike, Coke, Dell, Disney, etc.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #550

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Stephen King is addicted to Twitter? He's posted an average of 2-3 tweets per day — I wouldn't call that addicted.

I would.

I mean we could ask Stephen King I guess, he knows something about the topic.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#586
post #348

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What kind of content is being created on Twitter that warrants being paid? Reddit works flawlessly without that in longer form

Flawless has never been a word to describe Reddit.

Depends on the type of subs one frequents. Niche ones like StableDiffusion are super active with very in-depth discussion and tutorials being written. I rarely see that much commitment even for any Twitter thread

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#587
I don't get it. Charging for a blue check mark was not his main goal. It was to boot out all bots. Is that still the case? Is he saying that once the bots are eliminated, we are allowed to stay anonymous still?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#588

I'm likely to pay for it at that price. For reference, I have a bit more than 14K followers on Twitter. Why? Two reasons. 1) Funding social media through advertising has led to dysfunctional outcomes like outrage being more visible than high-quality content. I’m in favor of alternative revenue streams, although they have to provide value, and removing ads doesn't count as providing value. 2) My Twitter account is par…

By (2) it seems like the price should be f(#followers).

People can't control how many followers they have, so this would be gameable by encouraging people to follow competitors just to waste their money.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#589

I'm likely to pay for it at that price. For reference, I have a bit more than 14K followers on Twitter. Why? Two reasons. 1) Funding social media through advertising has led to dysfunctional outcomes like outrage being more visible than high-quality content. I’m in favor of alternative revenue streams, although they have to provide value, and removing ads doesn't count as providing value. 2) My Twitter account is par…

By (2) it seems like the price should be f(#followers).

(2) should be what you get in return. Pricing should be what customers care about, not what Twitter cares about.

If you're going to be a luxury product then all of your prices and/or offering has to be luxury or exclusive.

Disincentiving follower counts by how much VIP accounts costs doesn't make much sense. Unless you have some high end super VIP bracket that caps at 100-500k or whatever.

Elon's idea of rewarding creators as a byproduct of checkmarks sounds better than arbitrarily gatekeeping the checkmark system through some VIP criteria (like follower counts or public influence).

Everyone is a creator by default, creators should be rewarded after a certain level of contribution - always - but that's not the role of checkmarks (or the base level one at least).

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

#590
The result of this is that all users of consequence on Twitter are forced to reevaluate the value they receive from the platform. I imagine a lot of them will use the moment to abandon ship.
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