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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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What would make the process more integrated on Render?

I should have taken more notes on this... I think my primary issue with Render.com was the shared database for PR previews. The way I am setup on Heroku is I run a demo instance that resets hourly and build PR reviews from the Heroku Dashboard when necessary. All with no cost. The shared database makes the PR reviews effectively useless because of the need for the ongoing demo database. I was also turned off by the d…

All valid points. I'm not sure this is what you're looking for, but we have Preview Environments[1] where every PR can have its own database. Happy to chat more over email (in profile).

[1] https://render.com/docs/preview-environments

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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post #519

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

This line is humorous: "The priority going forward is to support customers of all sizes who are betting projects, careers, and businesses on Heroku. Our customers include PensionBee, who helps people manage their pensions, and Softgiving, who uses Heroku to engage with donors." People bet on Heroku for easy deployments are getting hosed. And those are your best two reference users??

Yeah, this stood out as odd to me also– "these are who you highlight?"

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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post #422

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Salesforce reputation? Have you worked with their ecosystem? Their pardot marketing platform van only use date fields in YYYYMMDD, no way to convert this to a European format. And i can drum up like a 100 of these insane things we have to work with on a daily basis. I work in the Salesforce ecosystem, and love my job but funny enough I fucking hate Salesforce in so many ways.

yyyyMMdd is international? Or do you mean MMddYYYY?

Maybe it is international but no European interpret dates like that and it is really confusing. This also doesn't happen in the SF platform, there they convert dates like it should.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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> Starting October 26, 2022, we will begin deleting inactive accounts and associated storage for accounts that have been inactive for over a year. Starting November 28, 2022, we plan to stop offering free product plans and plan to start shutting down free dynos and data services. We will be sending out a series of email communications to affected users. Sad to see this, but not surprised after the Salesforce purchase…

A self hosted and minimal alternative is Piku: https://piku.github.io/ (disclaimer: I'm a contributor).

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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> Starting October 26, 2022, we will begin deleting inactive accounts and associated storage for accounts that have been inactive for over a year. Starting November 28, 2022, we plan to stop offering free product plans and plan to start shutting down free dynos and data services. We will be sending out a series of email communications to affected users. Sad to see this, but not surprised after the Salesforce purchase…

fly.io i think - never tried it but HN feedback has been pretty positive on it

Have been using mogenius.com, they have a pretty generous free tier and lots of cloud-native features

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Counter point seems to be Slack, which has become better (in my opinion) after the Salesforce Acquisition. I think the struggle is that Salesforce has never historically offered a platform as a service business that is agnostic to its end goal. I imagine the idea of acquiring Heroku was to make it easy to spin up new Salesforce apps, but I don't know that ever materialized in the way they were hoping.

> Counter point seems to be Slack, which has become better (in my opinion) after the Salesforce Acquisition. ...which was only finalized about a year ago, and "phase one" of Salesforce's several-steps-plan that culminates in screwing up an acquisition is usually needlessly tinkering with pricing and packaging, which just happened recently [0]. The next step, if past patterns are predictors, will be an attempt to bund…

MuleSoft might also be a good analogy here, and they've owned that much longer, and by all accounts, was a successful acquisition.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Yeah. I did some Internet sleuthing and found a potential contact for the Salesforce Open Source Program Office and reached out. We'll see if they get back.

So, after contacting Bob Wise via Linked In (as he graciously invited readers of his blog post to do!), I constructed a concise but hopefully persuasive email about why they might want to sponsor me, to eventually successfully get this form response... > Thank you for reaching out to ospo-heroku-credits@salesforce.com in reference to requesting Heroku Credits for qualified and selected Open Source Programs. > We are…

> I had to look up what/when is "Dreamforce", looks like Sep 20-22.

Haha ditto! I assumed that was a typo at first.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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> Counter point seems to be Slack, which has become better (in my opinion) after the Salesforce Acquisition. ...which was only finalized about a year ago, and "phase one" of Salesforce's several-steps-plan that culminates in screwing up an acquisition is usually needlessly tinkering with pricing and packaging, which just happened recently [0]. The next step, if past patterns are predictors, will be an attempt to bund…

MuleSoft might also be a good analogy here, and they've owned that much longer, and by all accounts, was a successful acquisition.

By all accounts I heard internally, life at MuleSoft has become a death march now as they've gotten more integrated with the company at large.

MuleSoft is an ancient player that has a long history of doing enterprise software long enough that they were early adopters of SOAP. It is taking time for Salesforce to ruin it, but the process _is_ underway.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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post #482

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Young people use google for YouTube more than anything else. When they search, it’s on YouTube.

I think that's a little too sweeping a generalization. There exist children who are capable of reading

My kids can definitely read. They just prefer YouTube for search/learning
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