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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by 8ytecoder »

hedgehog wrote: post #544
GekkePrutser wrote: post #523

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Apple's limited success is not only a factor of the screen size but also market positioning. The mini is inferior in some specs to other iPhones but at the same time really high end as far as mobiles in general go. That makes it a niche product even if screen size was not a factor at all. It targets people that have plenty of cash for a flagship but are willing to forego the top tier specs for a smaller size. Apple p…

Even the small phone user base is probably fragmented between people who want a lower cost phone and people like me that want the Pro or better, just smaller.

Apple already has the SE for the low cost market. They have positioned the mini as the mid-range. What they're missing is a high-end small phone. I'd happily pay for it.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by posterboy »

I too looked for a small phone and left disappointed. I think there are two or three notable factors.

1. Bigger chassis allows a bigger battery, longer up-time. This is probably the biggest issue.

2. Having gotten used to a 6+" for a while, the small ones appear almost too small. Books are on average bigger than that for a good reason.

3. Very naively speaking, bigger looks better and thus more expensive. Users are therefore more willing to spend more money, whereas a smaller phone will look disproportionately expensive and, as per the first point, now less powerful.

Sony was the last one other than apple to try that, as far as I can tell.

However, cheaper smartphones still exist in that space, they just don't come with newer hardware.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by btbuildem »

hn_throwaway_69 wrote: post #31
perardi wrote: post #6

“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

>people just like big stuff I'm inclined to think that applies more to Americans than people generally. Europeans and Australians can be quite content with smaller vehicles, smaller properties, and quite frankly smaller lifestyles.

Didn't the oversized phone craze originate in Asia?

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by dont__panic »

grishka wrote: post #457
erohead wrote: post #2

I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

Yes, I'm as frustrated as you are. I want a no-compromise 4" Android phone, comfortably usable with one hand. For me, the phone is a communication device for the outside, that's it. I hardly use it at home except for calls. My primary device is my laptop. I have exactly zero use cases that would benefit from a large screen, yet all of my use cases would benefit from being able to fully use it one-handed. I don't watc…

Very much the same situation for me. I'm especially interested in why Eric doesn't mention the headphone jack -- does he simply think it isn't a noteworthy feature, and assume the phone WILL have the jack? Or does he assume that bluetooth is the future and only silly luddites like us care about the jack?

I hope Eric eases up on the weirdly specific requirements, like dual rear cameras, symmetrical bezels, and a punchout front camera, and refocuses on features that make or break the phone to end users.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by peregren »

krzyk wrote: post #539
scarface74 wrote: post #503

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Apple has market data - they sold a premium small phone for two years. Rumors are that they will be discontinuing them this year.

It was almost premium. Still didn't had Pros camera. Real example was Pixel until version 4. The only difference between smaller and bigger versions was the obvious screen and battery.

That’s splitting hairs. Premium ≠ Best in all components. And the iPhone 12 and 13 have sold pretty well by all reports so the screen size is the only differentiator feature wise. (And battery which is unavoidable)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by dorfsmay »

brnaftr361 wrote: post #366
nousermane wrote: post #349

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Talking about notch/hole-punch displays. As somebody who never ever uses front-facing camera, can I have a phone/display without such defects, please?

Yeah, no kidding. How much of the small phone demo overlaps with the selfie demo? I could go without a front camera.

I love a small phone but I need the front cam for quick video calls.

Front camera, 3mm headset jack are must for me. If I could get a notification LED too... You might be able to get a lot of money out of me!

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by conradev »

perardi wrote: post #6

“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

SUVs and trucks getting bigger over the time is a direct result of regulation: https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/10/how-cafe-killed-co...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by dorfsmay »

brnaftr361 wrote: post #474
nfoz wrote: post #412

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"selfie"? Video-calls are especially normalized now, since the pandemic. My family and friends use video-calls more often than voice-only calls now.

You do that on the phone? I'd never. And nobody I know has changed their communication. Discord, text, call. Everyone in my milieu is painfully average.

A lot of people on my circles have moved to Signal, and we do short video calls.
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