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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Facebook's extraordinary market power seems due to the network effect, not patents.

Not just patents: trademark too. There’s only one Facebook. Without that, you also don’t have Facebook’s network effect tying it all together.

I very much doubt that if someone could setup another service named Facebook, they could compete with them or do much beyond annoy customers and phish.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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So, this guy set up a fake profile and interviewed women who matched with him, without disclosing he was doing research? Ethics aside, he doesn't discuss his methodology at all. How did these interviews turn into a Gini curve? How could they, without some heroic statistical assumptions?

It's been studied a lot, I just threw that up as example since it was posted here a couple of days ago. Here's one of OKCupid's own studies [1]. You can search for others that confirm the same thing over and over again. 1. https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/yourlooksandyo...

That study shows the exact opposite of what you're claiming. The third figure shows that the vast majority of women's messages go to men they rate as less than 4/5 attractive. The last figure shows that even the least attractive men still got replies to their messages 22% of the time.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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> Banks ban you for joke comments in bank transfers or anything that alludes to drugs, sex work or gambling Surely it must be possible to exercise a wee bit of self control and not be an edgelord in every aspect of one's life?

Banks should not be allowed to automatically ban people without a human in the loop ffs.

That wasn't the point I was making.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

>if you're staring at your phone constantly waiting for box to message you I may be unfamiliar with the terminology, but can you please explain what this means? What is "box" in this context?

Box can be Irish slang for vagina. Not sure if its the oppocite of Bollox.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

I am still waiting for it to dawn on people that unaccountable power corrupts, becomes authoritarian and capricious, regardless whether it's wielded by corporations or governments.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Is this what dating is really like?? It sounds completely alien and scary to me; I met my now-wife when we were in college, by talking and having meals together and stuff like that. And we're not ancient, we're in our 30s. There must still be ways to form meaningful relationships without being entirely at the mercy of the app gods,

It's kind of important to remember that the world, especially the social world of meeting new people, has *drastically* changed in the last 2 years.

I'm guessing there's more of a sense of angst in NY or SF than in Columbus or Tallahassee.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Yeah, they specifically mention that at the bottom of the screen[1] when they ban you [1] https://paulefou.com/cancel.jpg

It's really pleasant that they use Dark UI patterns to try and make that text as ignorable as possible - fading, making it small, putting it in the margin and putting a hard divider between it and the primary announcement. It's sort of a master class in how to use Dark UI patterns - I'm just disappointed they didn't fade it even more, put an ad between the announcement and the context, include a webmaster@ link somew…

Match.com, okcupid after match bought it, and tinder are all composed entirely of dark patterns propped up by effectively pimping out women via access (it's men who pay for tinder/match/okc), and then exacerbating the whole dating market. All for a profit.

Last I read tinder is like 70% men, and it turns out women only swipe right on the top 5% most attractive.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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It has always been like that on Tinder. My phone number can't create a new account for example (never receive the confirmation code). That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) But they are not 100% wrong, Tinder is not here to make people meet each other. They are here to make money and people don't pay because they…

>This has nothing to do with Big tech. If you want to meet people don't use Tinder, As I said in my comment up-post, Tinder has a near-absolute monopoly in my area. If you're not on Tinder you basically don't exist on the local dating market. Yes, the future sucks.

"Sorry, you're shadowbanned, guess you'll die alone. The Algorithm has spoken." Its damn kafkaesque.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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I was just banned by EA/DICE for cheating, hacking or exploiting in Battlefield 2042. I'm not sure which, as I did none of those things (or if I did, I wasn't aware of it - but I expect it's unlikely that you can accidentally break those rules). After asking support for more information, they listed the same reasons that were originally emailed to me - cheating, hacking or exploiting the game. No further information…

I also learned the hard with PUBG that you need to use a separate steam account for these types of multiplayer games.

They refuse to share with you why you got ban or reverse it and they keep the money. I got my refund through Paypal and the warning Steam support gave me hinted that I'd lose my account if I did that a second time.

regarding your edit, IMO they shouldn't be allowed to permaban your account for a bad driver without first warning you that you need to update it. Even if they use a fake reason for it, turning off windows update shouldn't be a bannable offense.

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