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What things would those be? As far as I know his successes are a) 1 idea he had as a 19-year-old plus b) some other things that he bought with the money from that.

* 1 idea he stole as a 19-year-old I'm not big on people complaining about "idea stealing", but zuck is in a league of his own with this shit, so worth pointing out that he didn't have the idea for FB.

grumble grumble Good artists copy... grumble grumble

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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I get that it's popular to shit on Facebook and its CEO, but a lot of you seem to be dismissing the metaverse vision out of hand.

It seems obvious to me that humans will eventually spend a significant amount of time in VR. The question is not if but when.

As tech advances, eventually, VR environments will feel close to identical to IRL environments. And, when that happens, there is no reason to bear the commute costs of travelling to IRL environments.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Other interesting things said during the keynote: "and frankly, as we've heard your feedback more broadly, we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account. We're starting to test support for work accounts soon, and we're working on making a broader shift here within the next year. I know this is a big deal for a lot of people. Not everyone wants their soc…

> we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account

How much work does that take?

> I've come to believe that the lack of choice and high fees are stifling innovation, stopping people from building new things

A shot at competitors' app stores.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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If only. Arguably, part of their secret sauce is their restrictiveness of new users. You have to spend quite a bit of time in-game to gain the ability to even be seen by a lot of other users, and more still to be able to upload avatars and worlds. I'd planned on opening an art gallery space on the platform this summer, only to find that I didn't have enough friends to reach the "trust" level necessary to upload world…

Paying for a VRChat+ subscription comes with an increased trust level, so possibly that.

I didn't know they launched a premium thing. I wondered how they planned to pay for it.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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MANGA sounds more fun then FAANG so that’s nice

At least the acronym that includes microsoft isn't offensive anymore, just a nice MAGMAN.

I've often found the need to refer to Facebook, Apple, Google but excluding Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft (ie in the context specifically of consumer internet, mobile, social but not ecommerce, b2b or streaming), but have shied away from FAG. GAF ('gaffe') would be great, but not sure anyone would understand it.

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Other interesting things said during the keynote: "and frankly, as we've heard your feedback more broadly, we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account. We're starting to test support for work accounts soon, and we're working on making a broader shift here within the next year. I know this is a big deal for a lot of people. Not everyone wants their soc…

This is actually pretty big for me. I got a Rift a while back but it's been in a drawer ever since I needed to connect my FB account.

You actually don't need to connect it to FB for now as it's only the new systems such as Quest 2 that are forced to link it to FB. However, they have threatened to change that in a year or so even for the Quest 1 and Rift.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the next gen Switch has a VR headset accessory and blows the entire market away the same way the iPod and NES did to their predecessors. The required parts to make a 60Hz 1080p headset are entering the $100 cell phone market and that segment of components are more or less what Nintendo traditionally uses in its handhelds. Nintendo also has a long history of "blue ocean" products that tweak…

60Hz 1080p isn't good enough for VR. Bulky hardware that can be built for $100 isn't good enough for mass adoption. There's a reason why Meta is investing so heavily.

People have been arguing that Nintendo hardware doesn't deliver high enough fidelity ever since the Wii but that hasn't stopped most of their products from being incredibly successful.

The idea that it's refresh rate or resolution that's keeping VR from becoming mainstream seems ridiculous when even a relatively friendly platform like PSVR ships with this bundle of cables: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/So...

Occulus seems to realize this but their software side still needs work.

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Why NFT? Why can't we just "import jpeg" instead of "link NFT"?

The neat thing about using NFTs is that you can represent the ownership on a public blockchain and that gives you some nice possibilities: 1) storing virtual property rights on a public ledger means that it can be shared among different 'metaverses', which provides friction against vendor lock-in; it limits specific vendors (like Facebook) to only providing UIs to underlying property 2) a single vendor going out of b…

>Blizzard could shutdown WOW and you would loose all of your loot, but if it's on a public ledger then your loot survives

Your loot is worthless without the game. Why would you still want it?

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> If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. I'm confident I don't want them to own it - or for it to be owned by a single party of any kind, for that matter. > Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? I mean, that would be nice f…

>I don't think Facebook is constitutionally able to give up ad revenue gains This "fiduciary duty" meme really needs to die. Seriously the idea of fiduciary duty [to maximixe profit] is dystopian, corporations don't fuck us over because they have to they do it because they can. Edit: clarify

The problem is that the "maximize profit" meme is VERY fit in the evolutionary world of memes.

Those organizations and people that adopt the meme become more powerful and choke out all those entities that don't.

You can't just choose not to pursue profits at any cost if there are ANY competing entities out there that choose to do so.

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This is what I don't understand about their plan. Who on earth is planning to adopt this? We've seen a push from all sides of the tech industry to open up the AR/VR space, and it never took off. Remember the Snapchat Spectacles? They still sell them but I don't think they were ever popular. Google glass? Popular, but discontinued. Apple's ARKit? Definitely much less adoption than their commercials would have led you…

Remember this AR Demo from Apple way back with the iPhone 8? https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16272904/apple-arkit-demo... And what commercial applications of this have we seen in the last 4 years?

Pokemon Go?
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