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A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by NaturalPhallacy »

gabereiser wrote: post #99

This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

Most of Amazon's profit isn't from retail, but AWS. Thus, believe it or not, it's a much lower priority.

And so many companies from so many industries use them they're effectively boycott proof: https://digitaldimensions.com/blog/big-companies-who-use-aws...

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by scoot »

CliffStoll wrote: post #559
helixfelix wrote: post #221

What is ironic is that there is an annual Award given to an AWS employee called the Cliff Stoll Award: For those individuals who see something suspicious, not working as expected, show ownership and drive it to resolution. As Cliff did to find a KGB spy, and documented in "The Cuckoo's Egg". I wonder what would happen if someone at Amazon pulled on this thread and not only solved Cliff's problem but also the root cau…

If there really is a Cliff Stoll award, I'd be happy to contribute a Klein bottle for its continuation. (seriously!)

Amazon can afford to buy one from your listing... although the recipient might be in for a nasty surprise!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by IncRnd »

CliffStoll wrote: post #547
IncRnd wrote: post #467

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you able to contact a person through their live chat or call back links?

No, I was never able to contact a live person at Amazon. However thanks to this Hacker News article, three Amazon employees have contacted me, with varying degrees of success. As of this moment (around 4PM Pacific time on Wednesday30 June), my listing has been 404'd ... I'm unsure if I will be able to recover the reviews if I rebuild it. Or even if I can rebuild it. Most of all - thank you to my friends on HN. What a…

Good. I hope this works out well.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by CliffStoll »

bigiain wrote: post #553
CliffStoll wrote: post #385

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Took a year to write. Asynchronous I/O, I guess.

So long as more than 365 people spent a day or more reading it, you got your revenge on the universe… ;-)

Aaah - a tilt of the karmic plane!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by [deleted] »

fma wrote: post #461
EricE wrote: post #449

A perfect example of why I buy less and less from sites that support 3rd party sellers. The problem is even once reliable sites like newegg.com are now playing these games. If I wanted the Ebay/alibaba experience I can get that! Why large retailer sites dilute their brand and frustrate customers in the fruitless chase of "being like Amazon" in catering to 3rd party sellers amazes and annoys me. At least most other si…

I buy a lot from Walmart now, to drive business away from Amazon (I would never have typed these words a few years ago...). First thing I do is click Retailer = Walmart.com.

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by CliffStoll »

blairanderson wrote: post #379
CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Hi Cliff, I'm an independent amazon consultant. Your Amazon problems would be solved with a regular USPTO trademark. They don't recognize common-law trademarks because they are heavily arguable in litigation. USPTO is a database of trademarks already scrutinized by trademark attorneys and government. It's not perfect, but it is a collection that Amazon recognizes. You can do this for $2000-ish and never think about i…

Thanks, Blair. I've spent an afternoon pawing through the USPTO trademark & their TESS system. To self-register a trademark with already-listed goods (eg, a T-Shirt or a clock) costs about USD$350. The cost bumps up for every class of goods your trademark covers (say, your trademark covers T-Shirts and Clocks). And oddball, unlisted items (Klein bottles) cost noticeably more.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by CliffStoll »

scoot wrote: post #583
CliffStoll wrote: post #559

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there really is a Cliff Stoll award, I'd be happy to contribute a Klein bottle for its continuation. (seriously!)

Amazon can afford to buy one from your listing... although the recipient might be in for a nasty surprise!

Ha!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by jhgb »

duxup wrote: post #371
fourseventy wrote: post #370

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He should just sue for copyright infringement.

IIRC: Amazon won't tell him who it is and he suspects it's just someone out of legal reach / as the book is just self published his legal resources are pretty limited.

> Amazon won't tell him who it is

Does that matter to the police? Surely police reports don't have to include the name of who you think caused you some injury.

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