Linus Torvalds on mRNA Vaccines

Post by ghoward » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

grae_QED wrote: post #574

ghoward wrote: post #422

My reply to Linus: https://gavinhoward.com/2021/06/a-letter-to-linus-torvalds/ .

>it is a bad judgment call to parrot a line about experimental medical treatments You do realize that medical science has been doing vaccines for a while now. Really, there's no reason to think that there are any long term side effects to the covid-19 vaccine. Medical scientists aren't reinventing the wheel with covid-19. They already have blue prints from other corona viruses to work off of. There's nothing experime…

Post by mnouquet » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

barbazoo wrote: post #258

mnouquet wrote: post #116

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> prevents serious illness and death Only in 60+ patients with co-morbidity.

>> prevents serious illness and death > Only in 60+ patients with co-morbidity. That's false. See [1] for data on deaths by age in the US. There's about 115,000 deaths in the age groups [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...

Post by callmejoe » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 9:43 PM UTC

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GP should have said " or with co-morbidities". Digging into the A year of largely ineffective masking hysteria and not one noteworthy public health figure suggested putting down the donut to reduce the risk of death from COVID-19. We shuttered gyms and discouraged outdoor activity instead.

What about that broadway actor who was 40 or so, young kid, had his leg amputated spent like 120 days in ICU and didn't make it? Pretty sure he wasn't obese.

Post by thamer » Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

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Do you have any examples of such 'reasonable views' that are ignored? Because I don't. I do see a lot of reasonable objections making headlines or having a large impact. E.g. side effects halting entire campaigns for weeks, or large articles highlighting the dowsides of various vaccines, debates on particle sizes and fluid dynamics on national TV and so on.

That it could make sense for low risk people to wait and see how it goes?

Post by hashkb » Sat, Jun 12, 2021, 12:33 AM UTC

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Sorry it wasn't clear. I tried to be as extreme as possible to avoid being taken seriously. (Although I guess these days that works the other way.)

You have fallen afoul of Poe's Law. Basically, it is now impossible to make a point by attempting to present an absurdly extreme viewpoint in the opposite direction, because too many of us have encountered people who genuinely espouse viewpoints even more extreme . (As well as the exact one you said—no matter what it happens to be.) If you want to present such a thing sarcastically, you're gonna have to make an expli…