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$365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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He's single handedly accelerated the adoption of electric cars by 10 years while advancing literal rocket science to the point where launches will be done 10x cheaper. For those of us who measure by outcomes, he's a genius.

> He's single handedly Fun reminder, Musk did not start Tesla and bought his way into the company. His involvement should not be understated, but it's had years of management shuffles and changes of direction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tesla,_Inc .

No doubt, but he has been something special.

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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From the charts I'm looking at (market watch), it appears that other cryptos have lost more than bitcoin, by percentage. Am I incorrect?

Yes, others have, but interestingly, Cardano (ADA) held up well. Even though it dipped, it's still up 20% over the past week and is #4 by market cap.

Cardano is actually more subtle than that: it simultaneously tanked because of the whole BTC thing but it also got good (and clearly carefully coordinated) press as a “greener” alternative to BTC as a result of the self-same crash, which boosted its price.

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the SEC investigates him (again), this time for what was quite possibly a pump-and-dump. Personally, I don’t think he started accepting BTC in good faith, it seems like a (pretty transparent) move to manipulate the price.

Is that something the SEC is even responsible for?

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the SEC investigates him (again), this time for what was quite possibly a pump-and-dump. Personally, I don’t think he started accepting BTC in good faith, it seems like a (pretty transparent) move to manipulate the price.

Is that something the SEC is even responsible for?

I think so? He didn’t personally invest in BTC, he had Tesla (which is publicly traded) do it.

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Most of his workers were in an age group at negligible risk from covid; they'd be more likely to die in a road accident driving home.

Wow, people here really hate statistics. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1... ; if you're aged under 34 (as are the majority of tech workers), in the USA you're almost ten times more likely to die from "other acccidental fatalities" (0.0032) than covid if you catch it (0.004). Note that to assess risk the covid IFR there should be multiplied by the chance of catching it, to make it more com…

What's wrong downvoters, salty that you've been manipulated by the media to vastly overestimate the risk of covid for your age group? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/briefing/atlanta-shooting...

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Yep, if you listen to the whole exchange and read through the lines, he's essentially saying to US leadership either we innovate and build with this or we let our main competitor take over.

Is that how he feels about surveillance, too? Is that why he's building probably the evilest corporation out there?

Palantir shares have been basically bombing for months now. Banks have repeatedly lowered their estimates of where the company's financials are going mid-term. The company's C-level execs have been dumping their stock in huge quantities. At this point, it's looking pretty likely that Palantir went public so that its executives can finally cash out after 18 years of no profits, and then sell itself to someone like IBM.

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Some of the major threads in this saga so far: Tesla Makes More Money Trading Bitcoin Than Selling Cars - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27142261 - May 2021 (171 comments) Elon Musk: Bitcoin's energy usage trend over the past few months is insane - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27141493 - May 2021 (41 comments) Tesla no longer accepts Bitcoin due to climate impact - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2…

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Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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Wrong topic?

Sorry if it sounded out of place. The context is that Dan's team does so much impactful work thanks to powerful software. But for various reasons, a lot of the required knowledge is esoteric. (Do you know how to write an emacs library to provide proper indentation for arc? If not, are you ready to dive in and learn, without extensive supervision?) It's also crucial for HN team members to be trustworthy and effective.…

This place is one hell of a trip. Are you for real?

Re: $365B wiped off cryptocurrency market after Tesla stops accepting Bitcoin

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I got a thinking. Tesla sold CO2 emission right which is a considerable amount of revenue for them. Then, they traded their car with bitcoin which is a very inefficient use CO2. Thinking about this, I think Tesla should have had to buy CO2 emission right rather selling it based on where that bitcoin was mined or transaction processed.
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