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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Because the people there are far right. When you go to a website and the first thing you see is calls to murder jewish people and the n-word repeated ad nauseam, all but the far right decide to just leave. The end result is that gab/parler/etc don't become places where all speech exists but instead places where extreme racism, homophobia, and sexism suck the oxygen away from everything else.

This is a false depiction. I haven’t used Parler much but checked it out a few times and did not encounter a single piece of content advocating violence, talking about Jewish people, using the n word, or partaking in any kind of racism. Your claim that these are repeated ad nauseum suggests you never actually visited any of these sites and are just criticizing them without basis.

https://i.redd.it/om90nwadqca61.png is a Parler post with a racial slur and 25k upvotes.

The court documents (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29095511/parler-llc-v-a...) from their case against Amazon contain other examples of hate speech.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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I've been following Hacker News for over a decade and my sense of the community is that it has always been overwhelmingly pro free speech at any cost (even in the cases where it would protect something outright illegal). Now I'm hearing from many in the same community that free speech has been "weaponized" and must be controlled for the greater good. What happened? Seriously.

Well...there was the small matter of a violent insurrection at the Capitol Building by people who variously: flew the Confederate flag, believed Democrats eat babies, refuse to believe the results of the election, all of which are nonsense beliefs or causes that were magnified on social media.

At some point people in general - and HN in particular - have to decide when to rein in bad actors crying wolf. Otherwise they take over - literally.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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"fascist" is such an easy word to use without really knowing what it means, slowly degrading its power.

Definition of fascism 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Have you been on twitter lately?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Last I checked it's not illegal to be a fascist. Hacking computer systems and stealing data however is illegal. Whether this is right or wrong is debatable. Free speech shouldn't be.

It actually is illegal in a fair amount of jurisdictions, and depending if your fascism includes calling for imminent lawless action, as fascism quite often does, it may not even be protected in the United States.

That’s kind of like saying being a jerk is illegal if it means you’re calling for something illegal while you do it.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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You are missing very important points here: 1. national-socialism seams to have equality as a target. But this equality accounts only for a small group of superior people. In case of Hitler that was the aryan, german race. 2. Those points and the reality are two completetly different things In fact Nazi-Germany was not socialist but capitalist. Rich people and companies became richer. The only people that were exprop…

I'm certainly not defending the Nazis here. I'm cherry picking because someone claimed there were no cherries (socialists) in that bowl of grapes (nationalists) and cherries. So I'm pointing out the socialists. The role of the left in the rise of the worst governments of the twentieth century should be remembered, so that nothing like Hitler ever happens again. Many horrible governments start with promises of equalit…

I am not sure If you got my point. I never said that your are defending the Nazis. But you were and still are refering to Hitler as a part of the political left. Something he definetly wasn't.

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We should be standing up for the human rights of everyone. It's a dangerous game to say "everyone except x group should have human rights". I'm curious why this isn't common knowledge by now. Do people no longer believe in or care for the rule of law?

It's the paradox of tolerance. If you allow the people who want everyone not like them to be forcibly marginalized or killed to have the same rights as all others, they will relentlessly try to flip that around until they're the only ones with those rights. We have to stop such behavior at almost any cost. This was made blindingly obvious to the majority of the population during WWII. It's a damn shame how so many ar…

https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1328898661569363969

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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This is simultaneously a fair point (the Portugeuse were the first slavers) and a miscategorization (puritans/white european invaders were quite racist and violent from the moment they landed on Plymouth rock and began stealing from / killing Natives).

puritans/white european invaders were quite racist and violent from the moment they landed on Plymouth rock and began stealing from / killing Natives I guess I can't keep up with the shifting terminology, are natives considered blacks now then? Isn't that supposed to be BIPOCS? Actually if we are talking about slaves, then native Americans had been enslaving each other for centuries before Whites or Latinx arrived.

>native Americans had been enslaving each other for centuries before Whites or Latinx arrived.

So had the peoples in africa:

>>Very few Americans know that slavery was common throughout the world as well as in Africa, says Sandra E. Greene, History.

https://research.cornell.edu/news-features/curious-history-s...

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Last I checked it's not illegal to be a fascist. Hacking computer systems and stealing data however is illegal. Whether this is right or wrong is debatable. Free speech shouldn't be.

Where did you check though? Because there are multiple places on Earth where it is actually illegal to promote fascist rhetoric and talking points.

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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post #307

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Isn't it beautiful how the American and western society's rips itself apart? Man vs Women, Woman vs Trans, Gay vs Lesbians, White vs Black..oh sorry i mean People of no Color vs People of Color, Democrats vs Republicans and so on...zero consensus on each side what our society should be. It's like the KGB wins the cold war after all...with a small delay. Yuri Bezmenov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA https…

> White vs Black..oh sorry i mean People of no Color vs People of Color Congratulations, you played yourself.

>Congratulations, you played yourself

Congratulation you did not understood the irony.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Last I checked it's not illegal to be a fascist. Hacking computer systems and stealing data however is illegal. Whether this is right or wrong is debatable. Free speech shouldn't be.

When prosecutors, police and lawyers agree with them(or can be pressured), legality means nothing.

Don’t forget the ideological attorney generals.
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