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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Post by sorenjan »

reaperducer wrote: post #345
sorenjan wrote: post #211

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> I don't like taking the dirt from one place to the next, so I buy a new vacuum cleaner every time. That seems extremely wasteful. Why not just emptying the vacuum cleaner before bringing it to the new place? One person buying 20 new vacuum cleaners in a decade is just one of the reasons this planet is running out of resources.

That seems extremely wasteful It is. I'm not afraid to admit that. Old vacuum cleaners give me the heebie jeebies. We all have our quirks.

And by old, you mean six months?

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Post by m463 »

mumblemumble wrote: post #553
m463 wrote: post #511

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too many things have been lost or gimped. Chemistry sets, m-80s, model rockets, playgrounds, coaster brakes, whatever kids did before "play dates" and anything intricate with small parts.

Side note: "nerfed" is preferable to "gimped". One uses the name of a toy in a derogatory manner, the other is a straight-up derogatory term for a group of people.

I've only heard it in the software sense of intentionally restricted, but you're right - nerfed is better.

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Post by danielbarla »

metiscus wrote: post #545
danielbarla wrote: post #530

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There were probably too many things lost from "our" (n-1th generation) childhood too. Things like marveling at the first TVs, playing with unspent WW2 ammunition, etc. I'm sure each generation has its own things that they miss and think are detrimental to have lost, however I'm not sure that overall it's worse for the current generation. Hard to say. Growing up, I certainly would have loved having near infinite amoun…

>Growing up, I certainly would have loved having near infinite amounts of programming help available for free, instead of trying to decipher something from a 50-times photocopied manual. Would you be as good of a programmer today if that was true? I remember spending an entire week trying to figure out how strings worked in QBASIC, when I was in 5th grade. There was no internet and I only had the Apple IIGS Basic man…

Fair point. Though who knows, it's hard/impossible to say. For some individuals, it might have been positive, for others, perhaps negative. Overall however, I would not say that today's programmers are of worse quality, on average. (It's hard to compare however, as clearly we have a 10/20/30 year experience gap over them.)

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Post by IgorPartola »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #574
IgorPartola wrote: post #315

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If that's sarcasm, you aren't providing enough context for me to pick up what you are putting down. If not, then the honest answer is "I don't know for sure, I'm still researching it." From what I can tell, PM2.5 isn't the end-all be-all metric and sensors can give false readings. That's why I'm building multiple devices with different types of sensors and monitoring multiple metrics. PM10 and PM1.0 are also concerns…

> but those plans are outdated and the dashboard is proprietary so less than ideal Have you looked at open source smart vivarium projects? Several seem to have good front-end. This may seem weird, but the reason I first started to explore air quality and sensors was to build a smart vivarium for a reptile. I didn't go through with that project but it was a waking call for me. Animals need so much environment control…

I have not but it sounds interesting! Do you have any links I could use as a jumping off point?

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Post by mPReDiToR »

alasdair_ wrote: post #580
rmason wrote: post #475

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I watched my dad putting on a rubber glove to pull out a single prong from a broken plug stuck in an electrical outlet. I was perhaps 2-2.5 years old. I asked why he needed the glove. My Dad with his wry Irish humor said it was to get a strong grip. I told him that I thought I could do it without the glove. He told me to give it a try and I did. What I did was promptly fall on my ass and that's how I learned the powe…

Was your dad actually Irish, or was he from America? The Irish use 240V and that shit will kill you.

As posted above, I had 240v as a child. Twice in my life I've had 240v,it hurts, but not fatal.

At least, not so far. I don't plan on finding out if it really is "third time lucky" lol

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Post by wegs »

danielbarla wrote: post #583
metiscus wrote: post #545

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>Growing up, I certainly would have loved having near infinite amounts of programming help available for free, instead of trying to decipher something from a 50-times photocopied manual. Would you be as good of a programmer today if that was true? I remember spending an entire week trying to figure out how strings worked in QBASIC, when I was in 5th grade. There was no internet and I only had the Apple IIGS Basic man…

Fair point. Though who knows, it's hard/impossible to say. For some individuals, it might have been positive, for others, perhaps negative. Overall however, I would not say that today's programmers are of worse quality, on average. (It's hard to compare however, as clearly we have a 10/20/30 year experience gap over them.)

It ebbs and flows. There was a low point in the late nineties and early 2000's:

* Windows 95 removed all thought of the user as a programmer, killing things like QBasic.

* Apple was doing likewise, even killing Hypercard.

* The web wasn't in its prime yet, limited to HTML 2.0 and 3.2, and really lousy JavaScript.

* Even electronics was tough, since DIP parts were being replaced with SMT, and the service manual was starting to become a relic, but things like Arduino and RPi didn't exist yet, and making PCBs was $$$$$.

* Shop classes were on the decline in schools, but makerspaces weren't in yet.

I feel bad for kids growing up then. Short of installing a Linux distribution, kids were left out in the cold for being anything other than consumers of technology.

There was really a golden age in the eighties and early nineties, and we seem to be in another golden age right now.

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Post by flak »

tremon wrote: post #540
kwdc wrote: post #515

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> designed to not sever fingers Where is the fun in that? I say sharpen the blades and make it a real teaching moment.

Only the worst teachers teach by maiming.

This is debatable I think

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Post by flak »

VRay wrote: post #339
Judgmentality wrote: post #324

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Plenty of people raise their kids this way. When I see parents laugh when their kids fall down instead of panic, I smile. And the best part? The kids smile too, because they're actually looking to their parents for how to react. I'd rather raise daredevils than anxious wrecks. My best friend has a kid who's always climbing on stuff, falling down, getting hurt. That kid is going to grow up to be awesome.

Yeah, if the kid grows up he'll be awesome for sure

Dunno, I've known lots of kids - later adults - who had fallen on their heads a few too many times. Most of them - not that "awesome"

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Post by flak »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #453
Spivak wrote: post #355

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I mean you can tell you kid 100 times not to touch the stove but they don't lean the lesson until they actually try once when you're not looking.

...or they notice that the thing is red and radiates heat and decide not to touch it because it looks scary

That's usually not enough when they're really wrong and it's their first time touching a hot stove /pot.

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Post by flak »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #394
gonehome wrote: post #206

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The fan also sucks compared to something like a Vornado. "Buffeting" of air is not a practical issue when using a fan - you want a fan that can create a lot of air flow. The Dyson fan comes across form first then making up reasons to explain the form retroactively. It feels like an interesting look is the goal rather than something that's actually better. Am I wrong about this? Do people that have the fan like it? Is…

I had the dyson fan with the heater and filter for a short time, as well as a medify. I was disappointed with both, and returned them. The dyson looked cool, but the heat function was kinda useless unless you sat right next to it. i might get another one without the heat. The medify seemed to work well, but it felt like it was poorly made. I kept thinking I could probably diy something just as good. Though the main r…

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