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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by mastazi »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #569
mastazi wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it's off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???) Those are laptops with numeric keypads, the trackpad is still centred relative to the "main area" of the keyboard (the home row and in particular the rest keys - the two keys with a little bump, F and J on a QWERTY) but it is off-centre relative to the body of the laptop due to the presence of the keypad. Macs don't hav…

A lot of laptops, Dell for example, offset the touch pad to the left even though there is no keypad. You might be right that these are technically centered on the q to p span of the keyboard. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/De... https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/reviews/05RhNkV9HnULG0LW4YRfKzZ-... https://www.tec-int.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/...

Good eye! I had never noticed those before. Yes I think those are centred to j and f. on the Macbook Pro I'm using right now, if you look carefully, the touchpad is centred relative to the body but it is slightly off centre relative to the home row.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ehsankia »

_qulr wrote: post #52

OCSP is Online Certificate Status Protocol. The connection to ocsp.apple.com is checking the status of the certificate used to code sign the launching app. I wrote an article about this a couple weeks ago because of the temporary revocation of HP's signing cert for printer drivers on the Mac: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/revocation.html

I'm sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but can someone explain me how this works when you don't have internet connection? I assume you can still launch apps without internet connection. So then, what stops bad actors to just either block connection to ocsp or straight up turn off your connection entirely when running malware?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by lovelyviking »

kzrdude wrote: post #128
Aaronstotle wrote: post #44

Sad state of affairs that apps are slow because it can't phone home to a server to verify it's okay.

Unacceptable ecosystem, for both 3rd party app devs and users. What I guess we won't see - but need - is an apology from apple and a commitment to quickly fixing this bug.

Is it a bug really or design problem where they are trying to do something they should not do in the first place.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by bangonkeyboard »

areoform wrote: post #533
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

> they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"

That switch was toggled with Big Sur and Apple silicon: https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/08/19/apple-silicon-macs-to-req...

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by JeremyNT »

_iyig wrote: post #124

This is the reason I needed to switch to a Linux laptop. I cannot be beholden to Apple’s - or anyone’s - servers when it comes to running applications on my own machine. Any recommendations? I’ve heard good things about System76.

System76 just rebadges Clevo laptops. You may as well just go directly to Clevo.

I use a Dell xps13 (several years old now) for work, and it's fine. I have no complaints except that the aging battery is not what it used to be (I'd normally be due for a replacement system this year, but we're limping along on old hardware due to the recession).

I can't understand how picky people seem to be about things like the MacBook touchpad. Since my last Apple computer purchase was well over a decade ago, maybe I just don't know what I'm missing, but the touchpad on the Dell seems to control my pointer well enough.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by snowwrestler »

elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

This issue is clearly a bug. It is an accidental denial of service attack on the client.

It will get fixed pretty easily: Apple will add some combination of a timeout and a request back-off to their client, to properly handle the situation of a server that is reachable but not sufficiently responsive.

Apple clearly does not mean to make their devices unresponsive if the server is offline, because pointing requests at localhost resolves the issue.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by lovelyviking »

elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

The main design fuck-up is that instead of independed Personal Computers we have terminals connected to one huge server which violates the whole idea and meaning of Personal Computer and what the word "Personal" should mean.
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