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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by kingbirdy »

matsemann wrote: post #72

In EU I think a "consumer complaint/guarantee" would work (the law, not a warranty given by the producer). As in: the product is no longer working as advertised/expected, so I want my money back. For instance, when an older PlayStation (3?) in an update made it so that one could no longer run Linux (which was advertised as possible), I know of people that got to return it and get their money back after the Norwegian…

It would be nice if there was a right to get back the product you paid for (i.e. revert the adware update), rather than being forced to either accept the ads or return the product.

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Post by HelloNurse »

jmiserez wrote: post #374
jiggawatts wrote: post #247

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I just got one today. It's so much better than the "Smart" Samsung TV it is plugged into that it's not even funny. The remote control has touch. I can use my phone to type text input. It's fast . It's elegant and slick. It has no ads. It has options that I care about. It doesn't waste my time with options I don't care about. The Samsung TV on the other hand was a flagship model. Top of the line. Best of the best. Jus…

Yes, and my 2019 model recently started showing this: > Support for the Ambient mode Headlines Service is scheduled to end on September 30, 2020. We thank you for using the service and we look forward to providing an improved alternative in the near future I'm not going to buy a new TV every year. "Smart" features that are discontinued after ~1 year are worse than worthless, it's just clutter in the menus at this poi…

I have large and central Netflix and Youtube buttons on a Sony remote.

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Post by a5withtrrs »

Shivetya wrote: post #568
dannyw wrote: post #127

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LG OLEDs with Gsync are absolutely amazing. My only concern is the longevity of OLED.

there are numerous sites out there with long term tests on this subject and it comes down to, you have to go out of your way to harm the TV. As in, keep specific channels on 24x7 across a long period of time. Also, unplugging when not in use is not allowed.

Sorry? You can't unplug the TV when you aren't using it? Why? That's something new to me. My parents have a little box that automatically 'unplugs' their TV after extended periods of inactivity to prevent unnecessary power draw (the Australian government provided them for free at one point). That would somehow damage the TV?

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Post by pelliphant »

huhtenberg wrote: post #79
neya wrote: post #31

Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…

> If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it Just don't connect it to the Internet. The bigger problem is that at some point there will not be any "idiot box" models at all. The TVs will refuse to work if they aren't seeing the Internet. Then we'll be truly fucked.

I just bought a gigantic computer monitor and connected it to my apple-tv, problem solved.

sure, the monitor was atleast 25% more expensive than a similar screen with a smart-tv function in it, but I think it's worth it.

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Post by TwoHeadedBeast »

butterfi wrote: post #504
zadler wrote: post #473

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How do you know LG won’t update the software later to include ads?

Why would I bother updating software for a TV if the TV is already working? Whats the motivation?

Think of it as unpatched computer on your network, possibly with a built in microphone and camera.

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Post by hevelvarik »

I’ll hazard that this class of decision is entirely because enterprise success is determined by movement of the share price which requires continuous growth. It’s not enough to have a wildly successful product and a wildly successful company but constant growth is required to be seen as a success.

That’s the only way I see a golden goose killing ux change making into one of the industry leading products in a cut throat ever changing sector.

I’ll now browse the comments to see if any other plausible explanations have been presented.

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Post by elsonrodriguez »

Anther wrote: post #364
marcosdumay wrote: post #321

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Oh, yes, brand awareness is a real thing. For example, a lot of people will avoid Samsung TVs right now.

I just bought an LG. I’m so glad I dodged this bullet. I would be furious.

LGs have ads as well. I had to add a bunch of domains to a DNS blacklist in order to get my $2000 TV to stop spamming me.

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Post by robotnikman »

marcosdumay wrote: post #321
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #254

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The truth is noone buys anything from any ads... however brand awareness is a real thing. If you see a fancy ad from a company, they must be a profitable company that has a great product so you might be inclined to buy it or suggest it next time you're looking for this category of products.

Oh, yes, brand awareness is a real thing. For example, a lot of people will avoid Samsung TVs right now.

My parents were thinking about getting a Samsung TV and I've always been under the impression they make great displays.

Instead I will recommend Sony or LG now

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Post by pelliphant »

fxtentacle wrote: post #84

... and that's exactly why my TV will never have an internet connection. By now, it doesn't really matter which brand you use. I have analyzed Samsung, Sony, LG and Philips and ALL of them send data about your usage to NetEase in China and ALL of them have ToS that say that they might record your voice and store it for improving their AI or whatever. Plus all of them shove suggested apps in your face, so I'd say it i…

I think that the trick is to use a monitor/commercial display instead of a tv.
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