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Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

I'm just stashing cash until I reach FIRE. Don't care about the mission.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

#582

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Browser - use Firefox.

Browser - I use Firefox and Vivaldi Search - I use Startpage, DDG, Mojeek

Startpage has changed ownership recently. I would look into the new owners...

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

#583

I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

I'm just stashing cash until I reach FIRE. Don't care about the mission.

Realpolitik.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

#584

I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

I used to work there a couple years ago and honestly this seems a bit silly. People are at Google are pretty product focused. Sure you can go and use the items on this list. But I don't think they will be better. Google has spent a lot of time and money to make a set of best in industry tools and people use them as a result.

“People at google are pretty product focused”

Oh so they just don’t think about it at all. To be product focused is just to do what your boss tells you to do. Sometimes the easiest way to go about things is just to fully embody one’s role as a cog with no agency.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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A few months ago I started an Etsy shop, but I couldn’t create an account using a fastmail address. I got an “unknown error.” And the help desk suggested I use a more mainstream email service. That solution worked, and then I switched it to fastmail. But this goes to show how basic the opsec is for some companies. Similarly with Twitter, each time I create a dev account for a bot, if I use fastmail my account will ge…

> I’m not sure why they think that bad actors can’t also sign up for a Gmail account Because it requires a phone number? Or does fastmail do too?

Not sure if fastmail does. And I didnt know gmail does.

But, so does a twitter dev account. And they still lock me out like crazy if I use a non-gmail account.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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I read a story where someone lost access to their google account and had to go through living hell to get the access back. Reaching a human for support was outright impossible. Privacy was not that big a deal for me, but if I had lost access to my email for any reason, I would have had zero rights to demand what is mine - because nothing is really mine, as I have never paid for the service, so I was never a customer…

Recovering a gmail account is pretty impossible, at least that story had a happy ending.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

#588

I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

At a minimum, I'm sure the the big paycheck and prestige would be enough to keep people's heads down and working, so they can focus on family and other things in life after work.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

#589

I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

Nothing really goes thru their heads. They are rational, not emotional and strongly believing in missions is an emotional response. They are estimating probabilities of how this is going affect the market, Google and them personally, and plan their moves accordingly. I doubt they have any emotional attachment to the company, and given how much they are in demand, they would barely notice if the company folds one day. Same story for investors: those are even more detached as they make rational investments often in competing companies. So nobody really cares, as you see.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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>People have been raising flags about this for literally decades now and the other shoe has yet to drop in any kind of meaningful way. The threat model I work off is "fascist government seizes power in the United States and sequesters all data for all citizens from the top 15 large corporations". Then they get to work weeding out undesirables. This would happen, I'd estimate, in the space of about a month although if…

Do you think a fascist government could actually come to power if they had to exploit the 15 largest tech companies? We're in an oligopoly, the 15 tech companies have far more power than any president.

IMO: I'm not sure I want the 15 largest tech companies having as much policy influence across the globe as they do. For that reason, it may be reasonable to 1) resist them, 2) encourage others to resist them.
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