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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 2ion »

Lammy wrote: post #137
aphextron wrote: post #5

RIP to Apple's single greatest design, the iPhone 5 form factor.

Maybe you should give an Xperia a shot? https://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3189309/apple-sony-iphone... I'm only halfway joking since looking at their newest handset is still fairly reminiscent with the flat edges: https://www.sony.com/electronics/smartphones/xperia-1m2?cpin...

And be out of support after 2 years? No thank you. Xperia is overpriced and Sony dropping its expensive phones from support left and right. After 10+ years with Android vendors should've put in the work to support their handsets in a streamlined fashion at least with security/OS core level updates relatively effortlessly. They didn't, Sony sure didn't. Apple is the only vendor with decent support, sadly.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by graeme »

rgovostes wrote: post #441

Like many here I prefer the (original) iPhone SE due to the small size. Rumors of the iPhone 12 say that there will be a smaller model with a 5.4" edge-to-edge screen. I wanted to see how the size of that device would compare to the SE. If we assume that the iPhone 12 would have the same aspect ratio as the iPhone 11, and that the "margins" between the edge of the device and the edge of the screen will be the same as…

Interesting. So the smallest iPhone 12 will have a screen much larger than the iPhone SE 2?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by CalChris »

dan-robertson wrote: post #498
CalChris wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable Yes, I'd be leaning towards trading my SE in for this except for the headphone jack which I use a lot. Now I'll have to wait and see if iOS 14 supports my phone. Otherwise this looks like a solid improvement. $400 is the north end of what I'm willing to pay before I look at refurbs and last year's model.

I guess you must be frequently switching your headphones between the phone and some other device and so it is not sufficient to keep the $10 dongle attached to your headphone cable

No, I really just use the standard 3.5 mm EarPods to talk on the phone with family. But the conversations are long and it's much more comfortable to listen with the EarPods than to 'use the phone'. The conversations always begin with 'lemme rig up.'

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by graeme »

totalZero wrote: post #555
werber wrote: post #287

I haven't felt like Apple has been making products for me recently until the Macbook Air release and now this. Sane price points, and the exact features I need. Not sure what changed over there, but I'm really impressed.

It's almost as if a major world event convinced Apple management to optimize their product line for consumers who have less money to spend on devices. Not sure what could have caused that, though.

This has been in the works for a year or two at least. Hardware cycles don’t happen in weeks.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Leherenn »

totalZero wrote: post #555
werber wrote: post #287

I haven't felt like Apple has been making products for me recently until the Macbook Air release and now this. Sane price points, and the exact features I need. Not sure what changed over there, but I'm really impressed.

It's almost as if a major world event convinced Apple management to optimize their product line for consumers who have less money to spend on devices. Not sure what could have caused that, though.

It seems unlikely this was the cause though, you don't design and manufacture a phone in 2 months.

Also there had been leaks for months now. See this leak from back in January. https://m.gsmarena.com/updated_iphone_8_might_arrive_with_fa...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dkonofalski »

throwaway287391 wrote: post #276
hajile wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Comments like this always make me really glad that I've never tried "good" audio equipment. I think music sounds great with my Sony XM3s and even my AirPods, and I don't have to travel with a DAC to experience it. shrug

I would consider myself an audiophile but I agree with you wholeheartedly. My AirPods and other headphones are more than good enough to listen to music when I'm out and about. I've never carried a DAC anywhere because, at least for me, the only time I'm listening to high fidelity stuff is when that's my sole objective. I don't need lossless quality when I'm listening to music on a train or on the subway or even while I'm working. I've never been taken out of my mindspace because I may have possibly heard a compression artifact.

It feels to me like people just want to complain to complain.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by josteink »

ttizya20 wrote: post #580
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Complete BS 'cons', this product is great, admit it. 1. airpods you peasant 2. my hands are f*king huge anyways this phone is still probably too small 3. already donated to Covid research without going through a corporation, I'll take white.

> 1. airpods you peasant

Why would anyone accept the worst sound quality the market has to offer?

For the price of the AirPods you can get wired ear-buds or over-ears which literally provides you with 10x the sound fidelity and listening experience.

And they all require that good ole’ standards-compliant jack.

When it comes to audio, I’ll only take the best. And the AirPods aren’t even in that competition. Peasant indeed, eh?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by draw_down »

cptskippy wrote: post #228
reaperducer wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can I contribute to COVID-19 research without getting a bright red phone? Yes. Write a check. Mail the check. Done.

Exactly. The entire point of the red phone is to shout at other people "look at me, I'm a good person because I supported a charity!" Apple doesn't offer low key signaling. You're either a brow beater or a stealth support of charity.

I think it's ok if people want a red phone.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Joeri »

205guy wrote: post #566
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

I'm with you on the size, which is why I still have the SE myself. It also bugs me that no one is showing a comparison of the new SE to the old SE, so here is an old article I found, 2nd photo is the 7 (5.5 in), 6 (4.7 in == new SE), and old SE (4 in). https://www.imore.com/iphone-6s-vs-iphone-se-whats-different... So the new SE is bigger, but still acceptably small for most people. It seems like Apple couldn't bring…

Apple shows the comparison on their site: https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/why-upgrade/
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