GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization • Hacker News Board

Re: GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization

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Post by anthony_r » Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 11:17 AM UTC

formerchamp wrote: post #549

NikolaNovak wrote: post #467

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So here is a legitimate question: At some point a few months from now, IF you are proven tragically wrong; what action will you undertake? Apologize and review your assumptions and outlook for all future circumstances? Or, as I suspect, pretend you never posted this and create a revisionist history of what your thoughts, opinions and stances were? The first sentence indicates ignorance of math / timescales; second on…

Guarantee you deaths will be less than swine flu deaths. But you will just say it's because of our amazing response, the same response being treated by MSM as inadequate. Just remember it was the Democrats/MSM willing to go scorched earth on the economy to push this pandemic narrative.

You can stick your guarantees ... somewhere. Nobody cares about them.

Re: GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization

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Post by stephencanon » Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 12:16 PM UTC

76543210 wrote: post #563

stephencanon wrote: post #490

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How do you think medical education works? Because it's basically exactly this.

No. there is an extra 4+ years of classes.

There are two extra years of classes for med students, at which point they begin doing rotations through all the different specialties. During rotations, they are essentially “reserved for paperwork and unskilled labor which is also checked.”

This process continues in intern year and residency, during which time they gradually build competency and trust.

Much of medicine in the US is delivered by nurses, who have a training regime even more similar to what you suggest.

Re: GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization

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Post by JoeAltmaier » Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 12:40 PM UTC

stephencanon wrote: post #582

76543210 wrote: post #563

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No. there is an extra 4+ years of classes.

There are two extra years of classes for med students, at which point they begin doing rotations through all the different specialties. During rotations, they are essentially “reserved for paperwork and unskilled labor which is also checked.” This process continues in intern year and residency, during which time they gradually build competency and trust. Much of medicine in the US is delivered by nurses, who have a t…

Categorically false for modern medical school. My daughter started rotations almost immediately, alternating with classes every couple of months throughout. She rarely did 'paperwork' (computers), had close patient contact immediately and was doing procedures almost from the start, under close supervision. Her final rotations had her in the operating room, handling her own patients from triage to discharge, doing night shifts etc along with a resident.

Things have changed rapidly in medical education. At least some places.

Re: GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobilization

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Post by worthless-trash » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 4:14 AM UTC

JCharante wrote: post #177

worthless-trash wrote: post #160

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Tbh, I only ever see up arrows beside a comment, Today I learned downvoting is possible. What are the conditions on being able to downvote ?

500 >= karma I think

Thanks for your honesty, This barrier to entry just convinced me to consider looking elsewhere for moderated comments.

If there is such a high bar to moderation it pretty much means that only those with the best 'crowd appeal' will get this, and these are not the people that I consider worth listening to in most circumstances.