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(cries in Samsung)
Disable it in app settings, that effectively uninstalls it.
Disabling is better than nothing, but it's no substitute for actually uninstalling.
U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
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The problem with the non ad driven model is that to you 5$ might be nothing, but some people 5$ is an impossible sum of money to spend a month on entertainment. Ads allow companies to offer first world products to customers who could desperately use technology to help them connect and trade in their local communities. I think the discussion on privacy and ad based platforms should really be orthogonal.
Facebook could charge different prices in different geoip zones, like IP licensing does.
That's difficult, because in some cases the barrier to entry is having some way to pay. They might be able to afford 10 cents, but they don't have any means to submit that 10 cents into the system. They don't have a credit or debit card, probably not even a bank account to begin with.
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I think focusing only on privacy is a mistake. Every single person I’ve talked to that has deleted Facebook has done so because it did not improve or enrich their lives whatsoever, in fact, they saw it as a net negative. Why do people feel the need to endlessly browse pictures and statements by loose connections? Not one person I’ve talked to has mentioned privacy. Yes, many of those people are on Instagram, but some…
I think FB and people in general dramatically overstate how many connections they'll lose if they quit Facebook. I quit Facebook 9 years ago, but haven't lost a connection I cared about. I did lose connection with real people that were a net negative in my life, though
> I quit Facebook 9 years ago, but haven't lost a connection I cared about.
I did the same, around the same time, and my experience was the same as yours.
I would go even further -- I found that after I quit Facebook, my connections with the people I actually care about increased rather than decreased once the intermediary was removed and we had to start communicating directly with each other.
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#584Here's the kicker, which I think others have pointed out, but I want to say this succinctly: First, to quote the article: > The big gainer, interestingly, is under the same roof as Facebook. It's their co-owned Instagram Now, to my point: The average person does not care about privacy, just the illusion of privacy (I suspect people reading this site intuitively know this. At some level, nearly everyone is in differen…
> The survey says: 9 out of ten americans care deeply about privacy (particuarly around data privacy and collection) This is a problem with focus groups. Ask people 'do you care about your privacy', and almost everyone will answer yes. There's almost zero social cost to answering that question in the affirmative. On the other hand, there's a good deal of social sacrifice in leaving these platforms for good. More like…
> On the other hand, there's a good deal of social sacrifice in leaving these platforms for good.
I honestly don't think that there is much social sacrifice involved in leaving these platforms. I think there's a good deal of fear of social sacrifice, though.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#585Here's the kicker, which I think others have pointed out, but I want to say this succinctly: First, to quote the article: > The big gainer, interestingly, is under the same roof as Facebook. It's their co-owned Instagram Now, to my point: The average person does not care about privacy, just the illusion of privacy (I suspect people reading this site intuitively know this. At some level, nearly everyone is in differen…
Advertising, and tracking user data are not inherently bad. The user must know what's being tracked, and probably more importantly, the user must be getting something of value in exchange. Facebook is an ever-degrading skinner box, providing less and less value to users while being addictive and malicious. Contrast this with something like Google Maps: It's a privacy nightmare too, but it's also incredibly useful.
> tracking user data are not inherently bad.
If that tracking is being performed on people who have not given informed consent, then it is very bad.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
Advertising, and tracking user data are not inherently bad. The user must know what's being tracked, and probably more importantly, the user must be getting something of value in exchange. Facebook is an ever-degrading skinner box, providing less and less value to users while being addictive and malicious. Contrast this with something like Google Maps: It's a privacy nightmare too, but it's also incredibly useful.
Internet could not be as free as it is without advertising. Facebook and Google need to gain money so that we could use them for free.
> Internet could not be as free as it is without advertising.
I don't think that's true. That's true for certain things, like Facebook and Google, but those sorts of companies do not constitute "the internet".
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#587Here's the kicker, which I think others have pointed out, but I want to say this succinctly: First, to quote the article: > The big gainer, interestingly, is under the same roof as Facebook. It's their co-owned Instagram Now, to my point: The average person does not care about privacy, just the illusion of privacy (I suspect people reading this site intuitively know this. At some level, nearly everyone is in differen…
I don't have Facebook, but I do have Instagram. For some reason, the ads I see on Instagram are wildly untargeted. Like some Dallas based real estate company advertising to me, even though I'm based out of India
> I don't have Facebook, but I do have Instagram.
Which means you have Facebook in a different costume.
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Although now Reddit requires an email address for signup.
I think it's just a UI dark pattern now. It doesn't look like you can skip past the email, but you can. As of last month at least.
You're right. There's an Email field on the first signup page, but you can just click Next and set up an account.
Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says
#589By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…
Try having a business page on Facebook! Anytime you log in, they will create some new notification that you know is not true. "5 people have viewed X business, try posting again." Or "1 new person liked X business" then you check and the number of likes is the same. Which is pretty easy to check when the number of likes is in the 2-3 digit range.
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#590Note: personal opinion bellow It seems to me that the overall interest in Facebook is decreasing. The social network hasn't had any interesting feature added to it in the last couple of years. It's becoming boring and boring, so that's why I believe people are leaving. Still, Instagram and WhatsApp are running strong with barely no competition. We don't see any news about their user base decreasing and news channels…
I want to leave Facebook because it seems like a daily chore of unfollowing people who post shit stuff. Instagram is pretty much just personal photos, no stupid news articles, no "forwards from grandma" type stuff. I like seeing pictures of friends kids, new homes, vacations etc and they pretty much exist in exact duplicate across both properties. So why be on Facebook?