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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bad_user »

Freak_NL wrote: post #536
bad_user wrote: post #493

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My FastMail account costs $50 / year or $130 / 3 years, thus with a monthly cost starting at 3.6 USD. That's less than the price of a Starbucks Grande Latte. Google's G Suite, which is still better than free web mail since you no longer have the lock-in, plus a better privacy policy, is $5 per month, which is almost the price of a Starbucks Venti Latte. And this is actually an expensive offering in the business. So n…

> That's less than the price of a Starbucks Grande Latte. A cup of coffee is a pretty lousy indication of cost. For some people going into a Starbucks for a $5/€4,40/£3,92 gluten-free-unicorn-sprinkles-ariana-grande-latte may be part of a daily routine, but for others, coffee means using a coffee-maker to brew your own cup for a few cents, or just getting a cup to go at a some kiosk.

My point is that many of us drink such beverages every couple of days at least and in order to pay for your email address basically implies the same effort as buying a Starbucks Grande Latte.

And your email address is your online identity and has plenty of information in it that shouldn't leak, including your entire online purchasing history at least.

I am against paying for crap via subscriptions, I hate the subscriptions trend myself, but email in my opinion is fundamental to who we are and what we do online.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by r3bl »

adminu wrote: post #535
eftpotrm wrote: post #513

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In fairness - much as I like desktop Firefox, Android Firefox has never felt as slick as Android Chrome. I'd love to switch, but it's got to be good enough.

I think FF Focus is absolutely brilliant an mobile and for everything else (except Facebook) I use firefox with ublock origin. It performs very well and I can nicely sync my passwords and tabs to my other devices.

I use Firefox Focus as my primary browser (every crap I click on opens in it), and Firefox as my secondary (when I need tabs).

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by EpicEng »

kerng wrote: post #224
EpicEng wrote: post #113

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>or the extremely difficult user interface to switch default browser on Windows. I agree that it's annoying and user hostile, but "extremely difficult"? It's one button in settings.

It's not really a button, they convert the button to switch to a weird link and clicking the actual button means to keep Edge. Its misleading, and most people thought they switched because the clicked the button but actually that didnt do the switch. But agree it's not necessarily difficult, just misleading.

Wow I completely forgot about that, you're right.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bad_user »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #553
devxpy wrote: post #484

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> paying for a domain and the price of one coffee per month That's some expensive coffee.

G Suite for a domain and email is $5-6/mo. A cappuccino in SF I guess is a better analogy.

If you go for the annual plan it's $4.16.

Also the much better deal is the business edition, at $10 per month, which also gives you unlimited GDrive storage. Couple that with something like ArqBackup, Rclone, etc and it gets to be very cost effective, being cheaper than a Dropbox subscription.

Also the Terms of Service for G Suite is meant for businesses and thus much better.

Just be careful when buying apps and books from Google Play. If you don't want to be locked-in, don't purchase anything that can't be migrated.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by lunchables »

I've been using Firefox for a couple of years now. It is genuinely very good and I encourage people to give it a shot if you haven't. You might have been like me and swapped to Chrome when it got stable and Firefox was in bad shape. Let me tell you, Firefox has made ENORMOUS improvements in every area. It really is worth trying again.

Remember how crucially important it is that we have more than one web browser.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by kakarot »

mstade wrote: post #574
moccachino wrote: post #489

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To be fair it does take much more than $20 worth of effort to migrate all your stuff from gmail. How much more I don't know since I've yet to do it, even though I've been paying for another email service for more than a year.

Man, I pay $50/year for my Fastmail account. I use a custom domain, so total cost is a bit higher, probably something like $60-$70/year, not sure. Moving from gmail to fastmail, given their integrated migration process, was a complete breeze. I still have gmail forwarding set up to my new email address, but I haven't logged into the account for well over two years at this point. This reminds me to actually check how…

How is hosting your data with Fastmail and allowing them to sniff your traffic better than hosting with Google?

Out of the frying pan and into the fire, if you ask me.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by bad_user »

mehrdadn wrote: post #460
unixhero wrote: post #379

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Marketing should not be underestimated.

I actually tried switching. I found Firefox to be still slower than Chrome. At least on Google sites it may not be their fault but knowing where to put the blame doesn't help me on my end. Marketing doesn't seem like the likely fix.

For personal email I'm on FastMail, but my work email is still Gmail (not my choice). I found Gmail to behave like shit in Firefox.

Then I tried it in Chrome and found that Gmail behaves like shit in Chrome too.

The solution however was to drop Gmail's web interface. Switched to a desktop client. If you're on MacOS I think MailMate is the best.

Couldn't be happier. And this advice is independent of your browser choice.

PS: the fact that Google's online properties are optimized for Chrome should make you realize that Chrome is the new IExplorer and it's our fault for allowing it to happen ;-)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by plopz »

viswaprasath wrote: post #263
EpicEng wrote: post #95

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DevTools are lacking and they broke a ton of add ons with the API update (with no simple way to side load.) I can't use it. I tried again about five months ago and, one two machines, pages would stutter as I scrolled. Not worth my time to mess around with.

Would love to know your favorite add-ons that are broken and not available in AMO for FF57+ some of the contributors during their free time working on to bring extensions. can you share link or about the addon ( https://github.com/firefox-addons/ideas )

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