None of the three people profiled in this article are tech workers. They are investors, or whatever it is that Tim Ferriss is. To the extent tech workers are leaving Silicon Valley, I'm willing to bet the dominant factor is the cost of housing.
Like Peter Thiel, Tech Workers Feel Alienated by Silicon Valley ‘Echo Chamber’
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#582Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well there’s more than 2 genders but that’s another issue. The point is we live in a male-dominated society where men have controlled a majority of political and economic power since this country’s inception. In terms of gender, here’s a few policy proposals: -financial compensation for housework/child-rearing -reduced hours for the primary caregiver at the same level of salary after childbirth (usually the woman) -e…
Let's go on with answering the actual questions I posed - what you mean by equality, and how you propose to end systems of oppression. So far you've proposed laws - which are a system of oppression, and your laws have nothing to do with equality either. Going by your logic of who has controlled political and economic power - why not break it down by hair color and propose policies that make sure there is equality by…
Women should have money and power they shouldn’t have to marry into money and power. That point alone shows me we aren’t really having the same conversation, that your idea of a female power is “marrying a rich dude”
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That’s the excuse I hear a lot from people who, upon closer inspection, simply see spouting their particular brand of extreme intolerance as something which should be utterly free of backlash. People like Peter Thiel, who seem to be some flavor of neo-nazi/white nationalist and don’t like that their noxious opinions have little remaining audience. You have every right to speak, and people have the same right to speak…
Has Thiel said white people should have more power in America or that it should be a white's country or that the white racee should be helped to survive? Has he promoted the idea of killing people of other races? If not, then how do you judge him as a new-nazi/white nationalist?
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10-12 years ago, there was no tech in SF. Zero. It was mainly financial companies or workers for Levi's, Gap, etc. All the best tech companies were in South Bay. It was Twitter, Zynga, Yelp and quickly followed by Uber, Airbnb, and all the other cool startups that brought tech into SF and probably the cause of that shift. SF started giving tax breaks to tech companies in the late aughts, and then it started the huge…
Having been here since the dot com boom in the 1990s I have to disagree. Large firms headquartering in SF is a relatively new thing, but there were plenty of small firms attracted by VC money but which didn't come out of the Stanford orbit that has shaped SV.
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I can speak from my own experience only as I dont study the statistics, but in 20 years of work as a white male I can categorically say ate that my race and gender has never been a hindrance in my career progression. I dont doubt the possibility exists, but I do not based on my network feel its to any noticeable degree. As in, I havent ever observed it happen, as a hiring manager myself or by a hiring manager. As to…
> its clearly in response to a multigenerational systemic suppression of certain classes.... I continue to see firsthand much more of the lingering slights and biases against certain classes and groups, that affect their career and their inclusion, than I ever have any anti white male sentiment or anti white male advancent credo. This statement shows a big divide between our worldviews. You believe that they fail to…
Otherwise we agree. I come from a very white, very depressed region. I understand the dynamics well.
As to the govt, I believe the vast majority of all social programs do deal with things on an economic basis. So I dont see the conflict. Once again, not an either or. Most things arent.
Re: Like Peter Thiel, Tech Workers Feel Alienated by Silicon Valley ‘Echo Chamber’
#586Earlier quoted context omitted.
10-12 years ago, there was no tech in SF. Zero. It was mainly financial companies or workers for Levi's, Gap, etc. All the best tech companies were in South Bay. It was Twitter, Zynga, Yelp and quickly followed by Uber, Airbnb, and all the other cool startups that brought tech into SF and probably the cause of that shift. SF started giving tax breaks to tech companies in the late aughts, and then it started the huge…
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. SV has been host to tech companies (for the varying definitions of "tech") throughout the decades, from early processor and PC companies, video game companies, early internet companies, and Web 2.0 companies.
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You are right. My apologies if I implied this only happens on "the left". There's a lot of context in this thread so I didn't feel the need to caveat. However, "social lynching" is not an absurd term. While everyone has a right to express their opinion and face the consequences thereof, social lynching occurs when people mob together and demand, pressure, or otherwise effectively execute physical consequences for a u…
I would suggest trying to use a different term than "social lynching". It is a hyperbolic word that describes actions that are quite out of proportion with what might be called "actual lynching". Loss of a specific, typically rarified, job is far less consequential than death. Using that term is going ensure that a large portion of the population disregards your argument out of disgust (at the co-opting of a historic…
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These terms are ambiguous and have fluid meaning. But in general, anything on the Republican party platform, or supported by a substantial portion of Republicans or self-identified conservatives, is something I would consider part of mainstream conservatism. Quick examples include: * That affirmative action should be illegal or more heavily restricted. * That unlawful residents should be removed from the country, eve…
Until Trump, you never heard the anti-immigration, anti-trade rhetoric from mainstream elected conservatives.
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#589Earlier quoted context omitted.
> its clearly in response to a multigenerational systemic suppression of certain classes.... I continue to see firsthand much more of the lingering slights and biases against certain classes and groups, that affect their career and their inclusion, than I ever have any anti white male sentiment or anti white male advancent credo. This statement shows a big divide between our worldviews. You believe that they fail to…
I dont think we have a divide, my view just includes racism and sexism as things black people and women have to deal with, in addition to what you list for white males. Its not either or. So I guess my question to you is, since you know racism and sexism exist...why are you so wed to subtracting it from their equation? Otherwise we agree. I come from a very white, very depressed region. I understand the dynamics well…
I know my negative emotional reaction to seeing a "diverse" leader is racist and sexist, but that's not going away while their advantage is codified in every single corporate handbook in the country.
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#590I don't get it. I grew up in Silicon Valley and I work in tech, and so do many other people I know. They run the gamut from far-left socialists to libertarians to own a bunch of guns. They have all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and religious views. Some of my most libertarian/pro-gun friends have not been shy about their political views and it hasn't hurt their tech careers at all. They are far more welcome here than l…
I work in the Bay Area and I have personally worked with (as in, on the same team with and working directly in cooperation. CEOs, founders, etc. are not included in this count), exactly one person who discussed their conservative views. This is in comparison to hundreds of liberals. Sure, you may be able to identify at least one person on variety of ends of the political spectrum, but I don't think anyone can sanely…